So what about the baseball records now?

[dkgojackets]

Re: So what about the baseball records now?

well since all players now take dietary supplements and extra vitamins that werent available in the other eras, then with what some of you guys think there should be an asterix next to everything that gets broken from now on. The fact is, the game and medicine available changes overtime, and as steroids werent illegal in baseball before the recent policy, then you cant wipe out those records. Now Palmeiro is another story...

[bravosfan]

Re: So what about the baseball records now?

Steroids actually were a banned substance during the "steroid era", they just weren't tested for.

[dkgojackets]

Re: So what about the baseball records now?

With no executive branch the legislative is worthless

meaning if you dont bother to enfore rules, its like they arent even there

[Bamafan3723]

Re: So what about the baseball records now?

For me it's simple, if you cheat, your records should be taken away.

[caseyd]

Re: So what about the baseball records now?

So now that we know that incredible home run race between McGwire and Sosa was nothing but a chemically induced human freak show....and now that we know that Palmeiro's name is attached to Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, and Eddie Murray as the only 500-homer-3000-hit guys......

What do we do with the record books?

In my mind, Roger Maris still has the season home-run record. Aaron will still hold the record even if/when Bonds injects his name into the all-time HR record.

Sammy Sosa hit 400 homers in 8 years!!! What are we to make of that in terms of baseball history? How do we compare that to the acheivements of Ruth, Mantle, Mays, Schmidt, Robinson, etc?

It seems now that we need to take the past 15-18 years and rat-hole it into some sort of special statistical category.

Steroids have reduced baseball statistics to little more than homers and strikeouts. Good doubles hitters are now "guys lacking pop in their bat", and speedy players are now "bench utility players."

Even the league marketed their game with "Chicks love the long ball!"

What's left is a complete bastardization of a game that is reliant on its history to be relevent. Face it, a baseball game isn't particularly captivating unless you understand the historical basis for what you are seeing. Other sports don't suffer from that reality.

For baseball to be viable, it must have tradition. And I just don't know what to make of the past 15 years anymore, or what to do with the juiced statistics that occurred as a result.

I agree completely. It's a joke.

[HardwoodHeisman]

Re: So what about the baseball records now?

While Bonds may have done alot of thoe with 'roids, in a league where seemingly everyone is taking them, how many have even come close to utterly dominating like Bonds has?

With that logic, maybe BB's steroid-disher should get the HOF considerations, and not Barry?