More steroid users coming

[TheMatrix31]

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What about Randy Johnson or Curt Schilling??

[mjb2124]

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MLB and MLBPA respond to rumors

Interesting.

[Motown]

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I said it was gonna be Clemens a while back...I'm stickin' w/ it

[SPTO]

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MLB and MLBPA respond to rumors

Interesting.

Sounds to me like they're trying to minimize the affect of the upcoming announcement. I do think there has to be more positive tests on the horizon because where there's smoke there's fire.

If MLB and the Players Association wants to end this kind of rumour mongering then they need to agree to have a 3rd party handle the tests. I recomend WADA and having Dick Pound in charge of the testing.

[Stu]

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Sounds to me like they're trying to minimize the affect of the upcoming announcement. I do think there has to be more positive tests on the horizon because where there's smoke there's fire.

Yah it sounds like they're trying to dispute the fact that the results are purposefully delayed more than anything.

[Stu]

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Dan Shaugnessy is on the Red Sox pregame saying he spoke to Bud Selig today and that Bud was only aware of 1 positive test that hasn't been announced.

[bergie56]

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I know he isnt a megastar but my guess is Kevin Brown. The man has had a ton of injuries during his career.

[bergie56]

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Yah it sounds like they're trying to dispute the fact that the results are purposefully delayed more than anything.

I agree. I actually had to read through the statement a couple times to see if they actually refuted the rumors.

[Vince]

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I was thinking about Brown as well.

[GBrushTWood]

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Wait, before we get all crazy now, can we see if the accused player can float if submerged under water with stones placed on top of him? I mean, if he can float, then he's obviously on steroids.

If not...well, we'll clear his name.

[bergie56]

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For some reason I bet not much, if anything, comes of this. I really hope that something does as I would really like to see MLB try to clean up its image, however I bet that nothing happens.

[DocHolliday]

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Wait, before we get all crazy now, can we see if the accused player can float if submerged under water with stones placed on top of him? I mean, if he can float, then he's obviously on steroids.

If not...well, we'll clear his name.

lol, that was funny

[Vince]

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One big mess! Baseball rife with word of more positive tests
By Howard Bryant
Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - Updated: 01:30 AM EST

Before last week's Red Sox-Royals finale, a Royals player, who shall remain nameless, sat in the Kansas City dugout staring straight ahead squinting against the early afternoon sun. The topic was Rafael Palmeiro, whose 10-game suspension for violating the league's steroid policy expires tomorrow.

"Forget Palmeiro," the player said. "Be on the lookout for more. There are more names coming. Trust me."

The television executive whose network is a rights holder of Major League Baseball said last Friday that baseball had the names of as many as a dozen positive steroid tests that it was withholding from the public, unsure in the wake of the Palmeiro disaster exactly how to proceed.

Three days later, before Monday's 11-6 Sox win over Texas, a Red Sox pitcher heard the same thing, which reminded me of the words, "the rumors are always true," a classic line in Robert Altman's 1992 film "The Player."

"We're all hearing the same thing," the player said, noting that leading up to the Palmeiro announcement word had floated for days that "somebody big" was going down. "I heard they had 58 names they weren't releasing. I also heard that at least two were bigger than Palmeiro."

Later that afternoon, a former executive told me he had heard the talk recently, too, but the number is closer to 50 than 58.

Baseball executives say the rumors are not true, that the talk is cheap, more grist for the messy rumor mill. Baseball officials say there is no intrigue.

Yet this is the tale being spun around clubhouses in Major League Baseball, emblematic of the odd and suspicious environment that exists around the game right now.

The season itself is powered by Old Faithful – the wondrous game itself – and the power of baseball alone is preventing the season from turning into one big mess. But internally, teams are angry at the way the steroid process has unfolded.

The Red Sox are livid – less so now because Baltimore has fallen out of the race – that Palmeiro was allowed to play against them in the four-game series before the All-Star break. Imagine the games where Palmeiro demolished the Red Sox affecting the pennant race. Sox officials remain quiet on the subject, however, lest they give the appearance of sour grapes

An Oakland executive not named Beane was frustrated, leaning toward believing the rumors. "If they knew about Palmeiro since May," the executive said, "what's to say they aren't sitting on more names?"

Players now sympathize with Juan Rincon, the Twins pitcher who was suspended for 10 games without appeal. Three months after his suspension, having already forfeited games and salary, Rincon's appeal is now being heard. Players want to know if they are being set up by the league in this political wrestling match to prove it is not soft on drugs. The leak that Palmeiro used the powerful steroid stanozolol, players believe, came from Park Avenue.

Twins officials aren't happy, either, for had Rincon been allowed to play while his appeal was being heard – as was the case with Palmeiro – he might have helped them chalk up a few more wins, something the Twins desperately need as they fade from the playoff race. Rincon has been told if his appeal is upheld he will have his service time reinstated. League officials haven't, however, told him how he will reclaim his name.

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[bergie56]

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Wow Vince that article if true is a horrible for MLB. I cant believe that Rincon is having his appeal heard now, yet Raffy's positive test has been known since May, yet he is now serving his suspension. I dont think that anything with the Twins season would be different as the article suggests, but I cant believe that there was that much preference thrown towards a star.

I believe even more that there wont be a star outed as basebally will sweep it under the rug.

[mjb2124]

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Wow Vince that article if true is a horrible for MLB. I cant believe that Rincon is having his appeal heard now, yet Raffy's positive test has been known since May, yet he is now serving his suspension.

I'm not surprised (although it doesn't make it right). They gave Raffy the opportunity to get his 3000th hit before suspending him. There was definately some shady stuff going on with his suspension.

Vince - Great article. Lots of interesting stuff in there.

Looks like we have a few things to look forward to. Who else is going to get announced and how are fans going to react to Raffy coming back this Thursday? Could be a very interesting few days here.