MLB NEEDS instant replay

[ex carrabba fan]

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I am a Sox fan, so I won't even speculate on if the ball actually hit the ground or not, I don't want to deal with the inevitable flak.

BUT, saying that the Angels lost the game because of this is hilarious. It's akin to saying that a 3rd quarter turnover or missed shot decides a game in basketball. The game was TIED, so if AJ was out, it has no direct bearing on whether the White Sox OR Angels ultimately win. It was just sequential. The only way I would agree is if the Angels were up by one and the home run puts the sox up and over for 2.

who's sayin that the outcome of the game was decided by the umps? the fact is, if the ball hit the dirt, the ump didnt make that clear. the angels assumed it was strike three inning over, headed to extras. nobodys really sayin that the game wouldve ended up as an angels win. we just wanted to play on into extras.

[TheMatrix31]

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The bottom line is not that it cost the Angels a win......it cost the Angels a CHANCE to win in the 10th inning, in EXTRAS, where the game could be won legitimately and without controversy.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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Even if the call was wrong, which the umpires confirmed the ball DID hit the ground in a press conference after reviewing the replays, it shouldn't matter because we still earned a win considering Joe Crede came to the plate and capitalized on a mistake. No matter whos mistake it was...

Umps can't confirm a dadgum thing. They are somewhat biased don't you think? They aren't going to admit to anything no matter what. Rememeber this is the same group who sued to get their jobs back after they resigned because it was somehow the MLB's fault. They can't take responsibility for jack.

[ex carrabba fan]

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The bottom line is not that it cost the Angels a win......it cost the Angels a CHANCE to win in the 10th inning, in EXTRAS, where the game could be won legitimately and without controversy.

there's a good way to put that.

[Silverstring]

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why keep the outcome of games in the hands of four humans?

I don't know what's broken, my reading comprehension skills (highly doubtful) or your abliity to express yourself clearly. A little help someone?

You are saying that the "outcome" of the game isn't decided by "four humans"(I'm making an inference that you are refering to the umpiring crew of 4, and not four players in any combination from either team), but you are saying that the outcome is "in their hands"?!?

See the disconnect? You even used the same WORD to make disparate points.

[jmw1137]

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who's sayin that the outcome of the game was decided by the umps? the fact is, if the ball hit the dirt, the ump didnt make that clear. the angels assumed it was strike three inning over, headed to extras. nobodys really sayin that the game wouldve ended up as an angels win. we just wanted to play on into extras.

I did...and I'll stick to it. The ump signaled out...if he wants to say that's his strike call that's fine...maybe it's the MLB umpire officials who have screwed up since he's been in the league since '99. How can he decide that holding up his fist decides that's only calling a strike and not an out? How does he show it's an out then? Hold up both fists? Come on!!!

I'm hoping this won't swing the momentum to the Sox. My feeling is this will make the Angels come back with a vengence.

I'm a HUGE Cubs fan...grew up in Chicago and lived there for 22 years...and I'm just as upset if not more upset about this call than I was about Bartman. This is the playoffs and there's no room for error. I at least think they need replay in the playoffs.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I don't know what's broken, my reading comprehension skills (highly doubtful) or your abliity to express yourself clearly. A little help someone?

You are saying that the "outcome" of the game isn't decided by "four humans"(I'm making an inference that you are refering to the umpiring crew of 4, and not four players in any combination from either team), but you are saying that the outcome is "in their hands"?!?

See the disconnect? You even used the same WORD to make disparate points.

ok i typed that in the heat of the moment. let me re word it, though i think that made perfect sense and i had no idea what you were trying to say towards the end of your post:

Why would the MLB leave the outcome of a game in the hands of four humans (who have the ability to be wrong at times) and not allow replays on certain potential pivotal/controversial calls?

[TheMatrix31]

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Harold Reynolds just went through the whole "hand signal sequence" with the arm out and then the fist on plays before that and those all signfied the play as done and the player out. Why is this any different? This moron shouldntve done the signal if he wasnt gonna do it verbally either.

[southside_hitmen]

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ok i typed that in the heat of the moment. let me re word it, though i think that made perfect sense and i had no idea what you were trying to say towards the end of your post:

Why would the MLB leave the outcome of a game in the hands of four humans (who have the ability to be wrong at times) and not allow replays on certain potential pivotal/controversial calls?

I agree that baseball should have replays. White Sox got a gift there, I still want to see this replay where the ball hit the ground, because i haven't seen it. Anyway, good job by Sox to take advantage of the situation. In the end, a win is a win. The Angels manager even said that the call did not cost them the game, its just that they didn't play well enough to win (the Sox did just barely more---and i stress BARELY). The sad thing is that the great job by Buerhle tonight will be forever forgotten because of this call.

b.t.w. In the playoffs there are 6 umpires on the field, not 4. (The other 2 are on the foul lines in the outfield).

EDIT: I don't know how to spell

[ex carrabba fan]

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b.t.w. In the playoffs there are 6 umpires on the field, not 4. (The other 2 are on the foul lines in the outfield).

good lookin.

[Sabercatsfan]

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Holy cow, the Angels got screwed big time. It took me seeing it 3 or 4 times to really believe the ump made that stupid of a call.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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I've got another question: Why is the dropped 3rd strike in the rule book in the first place? This is the equivalent of the NFL's "tuck rule". You bail the player out for screwing up. You're giving him a mulligan. It's highly insane to have an "out" result in a baserunner.

This is another example of what I said earlier. MLB is overly concerned w/tradition. Its like a politician running ahead w/a mistake in order to avoid being called wishy-washy.

[Silverstring]

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I've got another question: Why is the droped 3rd strike in the rule book in the first place? This is the equivalent of the NFL's "tuck rule". You bail the player out for screwing out. You're giving him a mulligan. It's highly insane to have an "out" result in a baserunner.

This is another example of what I said earlier. MLB is overly concerned w/tradition. Its like a politician running ahead w/a mistake in order to avoid being called wishy-washy.

couldn't a case be made for saing that you are "bailing out" the catcher for not catching the ball, or bailing out the pitcher for throwing it wildly?

[southside_hitmen]

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couldn't a case be made for saing that you are "bailing out" the catcher for not catching the ball, or bailing out the pitcher for throwing it wildly?

Agreed

[J0nnD0ugh]

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couldn't a case be made for saing that you are "bailing out" the catcher for not catching the ball, or bailing out the pitcher for throwing it wildly?

If the pitcher & catcher aren't penalized on the 1st or 2nd strike, why are they penalized on the 3rd?