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  • Vince
    Bow for Bau
    • Aug 2002
    • 26017

    #76
    Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

    All that's left is for Dantrelle Willis to go to Baltimor or Tampa.
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    • dust247
      MVP
      • Jul 2003
      • 3369

      #77
      Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

      Originally posted by Birdsonbat
      Boston didn't sign anybody, they traded for Josh Beckett.
      That's who I was thinking of
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      • ehh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 28962

        #78
        Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

        The Jays are spending an awful lot of money to not make the playoffs.
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        • Dice
          Sitting by the door
          • Jul 2002
          • 6627

          #79
          Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

          Originally posted by ehh
          The Jays are spending an awful lot of money to not make the playoffs.
          So are the Mets. For some reason I still think Atlanta is going to win that division. Don't ask why but it's hard to go against a team that has won it for 10 straight years.
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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #80
            Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

            Originally posted by Dice
            So are the Mets. For some reason I still think Atlanta is going to win that division. Don't ask why but it's hard to go against a team that has won it for 10 straight years.

            Yeah, I'm definately sticking with ATL. The Mets don't have the pitching IMO to win the NL East. Unless Trachsel and Glavine have stand out years, which isn't something I'd put my money on.
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            • soxboy7
              MVP
              • Aug 2002
              • 1541

              #81
              Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

              If the Mets get Manny, they will have enough hitting to make up for below average pitching. I mean have you checked out their lineup lately? By the way, congrats to the Jays for getting AJ. With their young pitching you never know if it will click and they will make the playoffs. But if they do make the playoffs, they will most likely meet a certain World Series Champion from a certain city home to the best football team in all the land...DA Bears.

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              • sportdan30
                MVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 2011

                #82
                Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

                Originally posted by Birdsonbat
                Boston didn't sign anybody, they traded for Josh Beckett.

                Oh well, I was hoping AJ would go to a winner since he is on my keeper league, but part of me is glad the Cards didn't spend that much on him. He obviously wanted the money more than he wanted to win so I guess good for him and his agent for getting what he wanted.
                He's a sub .500 pitcher who's had a history of arm problems. He's only thrown over 200 innings two seasons. He's far from a work horse. I'm over joyed he didn't sign with the Cardinals. Reminds me of the Mike Hampton sweepstakes a few years back. This Cardinal fan is happy! Now, lets resign Grudz and get ourselves an outfielder. Then shore up the bullpen.
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                • Birdsonbat
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1003

                  #83
                  Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

                  Originally posted by sportdan30
                  He's a sub .500 pitcher who's had a history of arm problems. He's only thrown over 200 innings two seasons. He's far from a work horse. I'm over joyed he didn't sign with the Cardinals. Reminds me of the Mike Hampton sweepstakes a few years back. This Cardinal fan is happy! Now, lets resign Grudz and get ourselves an outfielder. Then shore up the bullpen.
                  The problem I see from not signing Burnett is that the Cards lose their flexibility to deal Marquis for a quality OF. There are no FA OFs out there that I see as desireable. Jacque Jones is not the answer. Then, if they lose Grudz to the Mets, who can they sign? This is a very weak FA market in the areas that we need help and the Cards are not left with much to trade. But, on the positive, the Cards are in much better shape for '07 and beyond by not signing Burnett.

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                  • rubisco43
                    All Star
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 4372

                    #84
                    Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

                    Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
                    All that's left is for Dantrelle Willis to go to Baltimor or Tampa.
                    if we got Dontrelle, that would be the steal of the year. but i doubt our FO is smart enough to pull that trade off.
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                    • Vince
                      Bow for Bau
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 26017

                      #85
                      Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

                      The Jays are spending an awful lot of money to not make the playoffs.
                      LMAO. I wouldn't be so sure. I'd say our pitching is just as good as the Sox and definatly better than the Yanks. Oh and our payroll is just a shade over 72 million with the AJ and BJ signing. Not even close to being half of what the Yanks spend to underachieve
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                      • theaub
                        Stop! Homer Time!
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 9643

                        #86
                        Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

                        Good job JP! It's about time the Jays became true contenders again.

                        There were three players who were targeted in the offseason: Ryan, Burnett, and Brian Giles. The Jays managed to get two of them. Usually, the Jays manage to be #2 for a bunch of free agents', and never sign them. This signals a good change for the franchise.

                        Now, some people say that the Jays have not addressed the root of the problem, their lack of hitting, and more specifically, their lack of power. This is definitely true, as the Jays were near the bottom of the MLB in SLG%. However, the Jays were actually 12th in OPB, which pleases me. As well, there are many players who are going to be traded.

                        The Jays, firstly, have a conglomerate of outfielders. Reed Johnson, Frank Catalanotto, and Alex Rios are all tradeable. Rios is the brightest prospect out of all of them, and player who, although he has struggled during his first tour of the majors, can hit .300 with 20 HR's and 20 SB. Johnson is a very servicable 4th outfielder, and is a fan favourite, while Cat is a career .300 hitter.

                        Also, there are many infielders who the Jays can let go. Hinske, although he has a big contract, is a player who may return to 2002 form (although he won't, that's just a selling point ). Orlando Hudson can play gold-glove D, and can be had for a pitcher. The fact is, the Jays have many position players to trade in a package deal for a better hitter.

                        However, there is no position where the Jays are more "stacked," shall we say, than at the pitching position. Miguel Batista will be traded, probably for a hitter. As well, young pitchers David Bush, Brandon League, and possibly Dustin McGowan are on the block.

                        So, there are many possible trades for the Jays. I, as a Jay fan, while I may be a bit biased, am not worried about the fact that the Jays have not signed a hitter. I feel that we have adequate depth to trade for a Kevin Mench, a Lyle Overbay, or even a Bobby Abreu.

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                        • AI_Franchise
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 2146

                          #87
                          Re: New Burnett info- Looks like it's down to Jays and Cards

                          yawn..all this to finish behind the Red Sox and the Yanks...yet again haha!

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