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  • devilsjaw
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 3572

    #106
    Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

    Originally posted by camulos
    Keep in mind, this is what was offered by the Red Sox. I think a more likely scenario would have Matos going the other way.
    Still not a smart move in my book, as then it would leave us without a center fielder considering we let Byrnes get away. I'd rather let Mazzone breed the young arms in the system along with Bedard and Cabrera and then trade Tejada for Prior. If they do end up trading Tejada, better to put him in the National League, then have to face him 19 times a season.

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    • Mxracer23x
      Pro
      • Aug 2003
      • 674

      #107
      Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

      But every other team in the AL east would have to face manny 19 times, especially in that Park. It comes down to this, would you rather have to face tejeda 19 times and have every other team face manny, or just face manny 19 times.



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      • Misfit
        All Star
        • Mar 2003
        • 5766

        #108
        Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

        Another rumor, though I have no idea who this Wild Bill character is:

        "The word is the Tejada-Ramirez/Clement trade has been agreed to in principle by the two teams blocked only at this time with last minute complications caused by Manny. Assuming these are ironed out the O's will have to make additional moves."

        "The Manny extension demand would require the O's to pay an additional $40million over two more years. It all is negotiations and would Manny agree to one more year and/or would the O's do that? Who knows? The O's won't do the two years." -- 1.1.06, Wild Bill, Orioles Hangout Community

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        • Mxracer23x
          Pro
          • Aug 2003
          • 674

          #109
          Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

          Originally posted by Misfit
          Another rumor, though I have no idea who this Wild Bill character is:

          Thats true, I saw it in the Boston herald.



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          • BunnyHardaway
            Banned
            • Nov 2004
            • 15195

            #110
            Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

            The O's won't trade Markakis, Majewski, Reimold, Olson, Loewen, Penn, or Erbe. Flanagan has said he'd like to stick with the youth and not give them away for older players.

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            • Havok410
              MVP
              • Jul 2004
              • 1441

              #111
              Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

              Originally posted by camulos
              Here's the latest Tejada rumor. I'd imagine the Red Sox would also be sending a significant amount of cash.




              http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSo...ticleid=119682
              Terrible trade for the O's if this deal goes thru. Not only do they have to take a ton of money but they are also trading away one of their best prospects.

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              • CWood2
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                • May 2004
                • 4356

                #112
                Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

                I'm just overjoyed that the blockbuster with NYM and TB has been all but pronounced dead. That deal sucked!!!

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                • Havok410
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 1441

                  #113
                  Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

                  Originally posted by CWood2
                  I'm just overjoyed that the blockbuster with NYM and TB has been all but pronounced dead. That deal sucked!!!

                  Agreed!!! That trade was BRUTAL.

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                  • CWood2
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                    • May 2004
                    • 4356

                    #114
                    Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

                    Getting Kazmir for the wrong Zambrano was just about the worst thing that could happen to the D-Rays future trading partners, because they think they can add every team's top prospect without giving up their youth. If they added, Marte, that's two top prospects on the left side of the infield and 3-5 future stars in the OF, with the best hitter yet to come in Delmon Young.

                    Anyway, the length of the Manny saga is making me really anxious, especially with a potential deadline coming up with the Orioles. I think the Sox need to know if Tejada could be their shortstop, because we have 2-3 big deals yet to come that are on hold. It's funny to see how O's fans are reacting to Tejada's trade request, because it's just like us when Manny made his petition. Being on the side that had more time to accept the magnitude of losing one of the best players in baseball, I'd be excited to move on and finalize the deal. If we give some cash, I think it's fairly even, so I'd be shocked (in a good way ) if Markakis came to Boston as well. Plus, you can only excite people in this town about failed trades so many times...I like that we're not panicking, but there's not enough options on the table if this falls through to feel entirely comfortable about the offseason.

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                    • Stu
                      All Star
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 7924

                      #115
                      Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

                      The D-Rays are flat out unreasonable when it comes to trades. They have a ton of young talent, but they'll all be playing elsewhere by the time they are stars.

                      I still don't see why the Orioles aren't interested in Manny and Clement for Tejada and cash. I know Tejada is probably the best SS in baseball but Manny is one of the best hitters and Clement is a solid #3 starter. If the Red Sox are coming close to making up the difference, that's a pretty good deal for an Orioles team that desperately needs to make a move.
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                      • CWood2
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                        • May 2004
                        • 4356

                        #116
                        Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

                        Originally posted by camulos
                        I still don't see why the Orioles aren't interested in Manny and Clement for Tejada and cash. I know Tejada is probably the best SS in baseball but Manny is one of the best hitters and Clement is a solid #3 starter. If the Red Sox are coming close to making up the difference, that's a pretty good deal for an Orioles team that desperately needs to make a move.
                        I feel the same way. They said they won't trade Tejada for prospects, so we put the best offer on the table plus cash. Now they want Pap or Lester when they themselves wouldn't trade Bedard for Sandy Koufax in his prime. Did they hire Tampa as a consultant on this one??? So help me God if we go and trade away Marte for that stiff Lugo because this falls through....

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                        • Stu
                          All Star
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 7924

                          #117
                          Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

                          Originally posted by CWood2
                          So help me God if we go and trade away Marte for that stiff Lugo because this falls through....
                          Don't even say it. That deal could go down as one of the worst in the history of the franchise. It would essentially mean we'd be giving Edgar Renteria and $11 million for 1 year of Julio Lugo. Ugh. I hope the Red Sox are smart enough to be content with Alex Cora at SS rather than make that trade.
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                          • CWood2
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                            • May 2004
                            • 4356

                            #118
                            Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

                            Originally posted by camulos
                            Don't even say it. That deal could go down as one of the worst in the history of the franchise. It would essentially mean we'd be giving Edgar Renteria and $11 million for 1 year of Julio Lugo. Ugh. I hope the Red Sox are smart enough to be content with Alex Cora at SS rather than make that trade.
                            Officially my worst offseason fear since we acquired Andy. Everything we have in house (Mark Loretta especially, Graff, Cora, Machado, Pedroia) beats the heck out of dealing with TB for Lugo. As far as Tejada coming here instead, I'm just not sure how we can make it happen anymore if Baltimore has officially said no to our proposal.

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                            • Havok410
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 1441

                              #119
                              Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

                              Originally posted by CWood2
                              Officially my worst offseason fear since we acquired Andy. Everything we have in house (Mark Loretta especially, Graff, Cora, Machado, Pedroia) beats the heck out of dealing with TB for Lugo. As far as Tejada coming here instead, I'm just not sure how we can make it happen anymore if Baltimore has officially said no to our proposal.

                              They haven't officially said no yet but i'm betting it was the Red Sox idea to make the O's include Markakis. And i'm guessing the O's said "HELL NO!" (I would've said the same thing....Markakis is untouchable right now).

                              Plus, Tejada straight up for Clement/Ramirez is hard to pull off because of the cash that the O's would have to take in.

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                              • Stu
                                All Star
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 7924

                                #120
                                Re: Tejada wants out of Baltimore

                                Originally posted by Havok410
                                They haven't officially said no yet but i'm betting it was the Red Sox idea to make the O's include Markakis. And i'm guessing the O's said "HELL NO!" (I would've said the same thing....Markakis is untouchable right now).

                                Plus, Tejada straight up for Clement/Ramirez is hard to pull off because of the cash that the O's would have to take in.
                                I think you're right on the Red Sox asking for Markakis. I think it was probably Tejada, Markakis for Manny, Clement and cash or Tejada for Manny, Clement and no cash. I can see why the Orioles wouldn't be interested in either of these, but they can't expect the Red Sox to make up the entire difference between Manny and Clement vs Tejada. The Orioles are clearly getting the better deal there.
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