Sox GM Kenny Williams calls Frank Thomas an "idiot"

[scuiuc]

Re: Sox GM Kenny Williams calls Frank Thomas an "idiot"

During his last contract, they invoked a diminishing skills clause. Im not extremely familiar beyond that.

From what I recall, it essentially allowed the white sox to buy out the last year of his contract for 3.5 mil instead of owing the 8 or 10 mil that they would otherwise. It only kicked in if his BA wasn't high enough, or he was injured too much.

[Freelance]

Re: Sox GM Kenny Williams calls Frank Thomas an "idiot"

Umm Frank did a thing or two for them as well. I'll never understand why fans can forget about a HOF career so quickly just because a guy leaves town on a sour note.

Frank Thomas is a lot of things, but Hall of Famer isn't one of them.

[SPTO]

Re: Sox GM Kenny Williams calls Frank Thomas an "idiot"

Frank Thomas is a lot of things, but Hall of Famer isn't one of them.

Well before the injuries got to him, it was pretty much acknowledged that he was having a HOF career. So at least he had that much going for him.

[Stu]

Re: Sox GM Kenny Williams calls Frank Thomas an "idiot"

Frank Thomas is a lot of things, but Hall of Famer isn't one of them.

.307 career average, .995 career OPS, 448 HR's and still going? He'll be a Hall of Famer before he's done. People forget just how good this guy was earlier in his career.

[fishepa]

Re: Sox GM Kenny Williams calls Frank Thomas an "idiot"

He'll need to reach 500 HR's to even sniff the HOF IMO.

[Stu]

Re: Sox GM Kenny Williams calls Frank Thomas an "idiot"

He'll need to reach 500 HR's to even sniff the HOF IMO.

I think he needs to get closer, but not necessarily reach 500. At this point he's a very similar candidate to Jim Rice. If he can get closer to 500 without killing his career average, he's in.

[SPTO]

Re: Sox GM Kenny Williams calls Frank Thomas an "idiot"

I think he needs to get closer, but not necessarily reach 500. At this point he's a very similar candidate to Jim Rice. If he can get closer to 500 without killing his career average, he's in.

You're probably right. I think what may help Frank is that there could be a backlash against players in the "steroid" era and guys with respectable numbers will find themselves getting in.

[Stu]

Re: Sox GM Kenny Williams calls Frank Thomas an "idiot"

You're probably right. I think what may help Frank is that there could be a backlash against players in the "steroid" era and guys with respectable numbers will find themselves getting in.

Here's another tidbit:

From 1991--his first full season in Chicago--to 1997, Thomas became the only player in history to hit better than .300 with at least 20 home runs, 100 RBI, 100 walks and 100 runs scored for seven consecutive seasons.
Only Lou Gehrig, Ted Williams and Jason Giambi accomplished that feat for as many as four consecutive seasons.