It's kind of tough to compare a RC/27 stat when Barry barely played last year and we're only 1 game into this season. It's also useless to compare that stat for a career when Barry's is winding down and Albert's is just starting.
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by Blzer
It's kind of tough to compare a RC/27 stat when Barry barely played last year and we're only 1 game into this season. It's also useless to compare that stat for a career when Barry's is winding down and Albert's is just starting. -
Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by bkrich83I am sure being a Giants fan has nothing to do with your view on this.
Just don't consider team bias being a reasoning for why I say what I do... only player bias.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
No one is gonna come to bonds defense for fear of being an apologist. he is a guy who is viewed as a cancer by most and will never get his due. ESPN thinks they are slick but they are trying to excuse themselves from this Bonds show by sayin espn entertainment and espn network are not the same. also espn in their intro to sportscenter USED to have a highlight of Bonds hitting a homer and they convieniently replaced it with a Pujols highlight. and they did that once the balco stuff heated up. There will be a great big campaign to push Pujols into the Great hitter in baseball class, which he is great, but he aint done enough to be in bonds class.Last edited by iLLmatic; 04-03-2006, 09:41 PM.Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by joebooIt's also useless to compare that stat for a career when Barry's is winding down and Albert's is just starting.
You know when Pujols will become a better player in my eyes? When he ends up hitting more home runs than striking out (and it's gotta be at least 40+ home runs, I'd say), or when he wins a few Gold Gloves at his position (a reason why many people believe that Ortiz did not deserve MVP was because he was a DH... I believe that a non-superb defensive 1B is just the same thing, meaning they are only there because they aren't much better at anything else) He used to be at 3B... what happened? Don't say that Rolen happened. Let's just say that now Pujols has time to become an offensive juggernaut now. Bonds only does because his knees can't handle what he used to do, which is another thing for Pujols... being able to steal bases.
Come on, Bonds is a 500/500 guy (well, actually... 700/500). Pujols is a two-tool player. Bonds at his peak was a five-tool easily, and now probably a 3 1/2 - tool.
What am I getting at? Hell, I don't know (once again). I'm just saying random stuff again. Dinner's ready, gotta go.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by BlzerI think I said it before (don't remember), but don't look at the avatar when seeing these posts. I would be a diehard regardless of what team I am a fan of. Gary Sheffield is my second favorite hitter, Greg Maddux being my favorite pitcher. Both are on teams that I absolutely hate with all of my blood, yet I love those players to death. The teams really don't matter at all. If Bonds is traded, even to the A's (which, I also hate), he's ALWAYS my favorite player.
Just don't consider team bias being a reasoning for why I say what I do... only player bias.Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by joebooNot seeing it and neither are many others.
If they are ANTI-Bonds, why did they give him his own reality show? They're in this to make money and they're going to milk that show for as much as they can. They love Barry. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
They are friends with Bonds, and I know that.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by BlzerWell, this statement makes me think that you're saying: "By the end of his career, Albert Pujols will be a better player than Barry Bonds." It may even be directed towards saying that in 2010 Pujols will be better. I can't deny any of those at the moment, because I haven't seen them happen. And he might be at that time. But, at this precise moment, he is not.
You know when Pujols will become a better player in my eyes? When he ends up hitting more home runs than striking out (and it's gotta be at least 40+ home runs, I'd say), or when he wins a few Gold Gloves at his position (a reason why many people believe that Ortiz did not deserve MVP was because he was a DH... I believe that a non-superb defensive 1B is just the same thing, meaning they are only there because they aren't much better at anything else) He used to be at 3B... what happened? Don't say that Rolen happened. Let's just say that now Pujols has time to become an offensive juggernaut now. Bonds only does because his knees can't handle what he used to do, which is another thing for Pujols... being able to steal bases.
Come on, Bonds is a 500/500 guy (well, actually... 700/500). Pujols is a two-tool player. Bonds at his peak was a five-tool easily, and now probably a 3 1/2 - tool.
What am I getting at? Hell, I don't know (once again). I'm just saying random stuff again. Dinner's ready, gotta go.Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by bkrich83Gonna have to raise the BS flag.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by bkrich83Tough to call a player that never could throw a 5 tool player.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
For the second straight year ESPNews is showing the stupid "Bonds Box" in the bottom right hand corner. All they do is give you updates on his last at bat, or his stat line if a game is over. And they call this "Breaking News"PSN: JISTIC_OS
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by BlzerSounds good. Your belief, but my personal fact.Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by BlzerHe is possibly still one of the most accurate throwers in the game. He's no Guerrero or Ichiro, but he can still throw the ball pretty hard if he wanted to (and for a strike).
I have never, ever heard one baseball person say anything other than that's his weak point, he's horrible throwing.Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by bkrich83Sadly, I think you honestly believe that you're not biased.
All I will say is this! Bonds was in a league of his own. Now that he is slowing down, not anymore. He is still up their with the greats Like Ortiz and Albert P. and others. But after this year who know. But he will always get the attention, because steroids or not no one was more dangerous at the plate!Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by BlzerBonds at his peak was a five-tool easily, and now probably a 3 1/2 - tool.
He hits for average, he hits for power and what?Last edited by bkrich83; 04-03-2006, 10:02 PM.Comment
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Re: ESPN and Bonds
Originally posted by ScottdAll I will say is this! Bonds was in a league of his own. Now that he is slowing down, not anymore. He is still up their with the greats Like Ortiz and Albert P. and others. But after this year who know. But he will always get the attention, because steroids or not no one was more dangerous at the plate!Comment
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