Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

[deeman11747]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

And add them to the AL West?

Then there would be an odd number of teams in each league.

[dieselboy]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Then there would be an odd number of teams in each league.

I'm aware...and I know that it works better this way....

But I want to go to LV for M's games, damnit!

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

I'm aware...and I know that it works better this way....

But I want to go to LV for M's games, damnit!

Tell them to switch leagues with their AAA club.

[BunnyHardaway]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Hmm...I'd love for the Orioles to get one of these guys, but wouldn't trade Nick Markakis, Adam Loewen, Garrett Olson, Brandon Erbe, or Radhames Liz to get them. If they can spin a trade involving anyone but those guys, that would be nice.

[rsox]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

If the Marlins are serious about leaving Florida (for San Antonio more likely than Vegas) then they would be foolish to get rid of Willis and Cabrera. If the Marlins are going to sell themselves to other cities they are going to need players like Willis and Cabrera to showcase as the corner stones of the franchise. San Antonio, Vegas, Norfolk or whereever are not going to spend upwards of around $400 million dollars to build a stadium for a AA (yep, not even AAA) team. Loria should just sell the team and never be allowed to own another franchise ever again.

[Stu]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

You guys are crazy. I'd give up anyone in the Red Sox minor league system to get Willis, and most of the guys on their ML roster. The Orioles would be stupid to not trade a guy like Adam Loewen for him. Same goes for the Yankees and Cano/Wang.

[rsox]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Hmm...I'd love for the Orioles to get one of these guys, but wouldn't trade Nick Markakis, Adam Loewen, Garrett Olson, Brandon Erbe, or Radhames Liz to get them. If they can spin a trade involving anyone but those guys, that would be nice.

Somehow i don't think a trade involving Luis Matos and Eric Dubose would be enough to get either Willis or Cabrera so the Orioles would most likely have to part with both Markakis and Loewen just as the Red Sox would have to offer Jon Lester and possibly Dustin Pedroia in any deal for either of them.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

They arent going to get any stadium deal if they dump either of these guys. This is the pitching staff. This is your team. These guys will sell tickets for you, because they are your franchise players.

I dont know what I would do if either of these guys was traded. I cant imagine getting anything close to fair value for Cabrera.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

I cant believe some of you guys would object to trading some dumb minor league players for either Willis or Cabrera. Willis is 24 and has finished second in Cy Young voting and will get 20 wins on any decent team. Cabrera is 22 and considered one of the top 5 players in the NL. Both have won a World Series. It is highway robbery to get either of these guys for minor leaguers and most major leaguers.

[Stu]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

I cant believe some of you guys would object to trading some dumb minor league players for either Willis or Cabrera. Willis is 24 and has finished second in Cy Young voting and will get 20 wins on any decent team. Cabrera is 22 and considered one of the top 5 players in the NL. Both have won a World Series. It is highway robbery to get either of these guys for minor leaguers and most major leaguers.

I can understand wanting to see prospects develop but jeeze. I'll take a 24 year old LH Cy Young candidate for prospects any time. No brainer.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

I can understand wanting to see prospects develop but jeeze. I'll take a 24 year old LH Cy Young candidate for prospects any time. No brainer.

Exactly. He is practically just as young and as good as you can hope the prospects will develop into.

[BunnyHardaway]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Somehow i don't think a trade involving Luis Matos and Eric Dubose would be enough to get either Willis or Cabrera so the Orioles would most likely have to part with both Markakis and Loewen just as the Red Sox would have to offer Jon Lester and possibly Dustin Pedroia in any deal for either of them.

Loewen is a future 20 game and Cy Young winner. You don't trade that away. Markakis is a future all-star. I'd trade them a package centered around Hayden Penn and other prospects like James Johnson, Val Majewski, etc. They wouldn't accept it, but that'd be my highest offer.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Loewen is a future 20 game and Cy Young winner. You don't trade that away. Markakis is a future all-star. I'd trade them a package centered around Hayden Penn and other prospects like James Johnson, Val Majewski, etc. They wouldn't accept it, but that'd be my highest offer.

Wrong, they are EXPECTED to be "20 game winners and All-Stars" Willis IS a 20-game winner, and Cabrera IS an All-Star.

[BunnyHardaway]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

I just think Cabrera's work ethic issues will be his downfall. He seems like a guy that could be a cancer to the clubhouse. After reading an artice where he was quoted as saying he wouldn't take advice from veterans, I've kind of lost interest, but I'd still like his .325/35/120 in Baltimore. Just not at the cost of team chemistry.

[Vince]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

I can understand wanting to see prospects develop but jeeze. I'll take a 24 year old LH Cy Young candidate for prospects any time. No brainer.

There is no other sport in which the GM's overvalue prospects, like in Baseball. It's rediculous.