Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

[dkgojackets]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Iowa doesnt need any pro sports teams

[Thrasha]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

If I am Terry Ryan, GM of the Twins, I offer Matt Moses AND Fransisco Liriano for Cabrera. He and Mauer would be the most insane 3-4 pair for the next 10+ years. Of course, it would never, EVER happen, since Liriano is basically the second coming of Jesus, according to the Twins.

Why you would even consider breaking up what Johan and Liriano could be astounds me.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Why you would even consider breaking up what Johan and Liriano could be astounds me.

Why you wouldnt give up minor leaguers for a 22 yr old proven .300/30/100 guy astounds me.

There are not many players I would want straight up for Cabrera.

[thmst30]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Umm not quite. Why would a city accept a franchise if they knew no one would attend the games?

Ummm Yes quite. People would come because it would be a new sport in thier city. It would be just like a new expansion team. Of course they're going to suck but people want to see them because its a new experience.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Ummm Yes quite. People would come because it would be a new sport in thier city. It would be just like a new expansion team. Of course they're going to suck but people want to see them because its a new experience.

novelty will only take you so far. Eventually you have to have players that draw and win some games

[bergie56]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

If I am Terry Ryan, GM of the Twins, I offer Matt Moses AND Fransisco Liriano for Cabrera. He and Mauer would be the most insane 3-4 pair for the next 10+ years. Of course, it would never, EVER happen, since Liriano is basically the second coming of Jesus, according to the Twins.

Or it is more likely the fact that if we traded for Cabrera we would almost certainly lose him as soon as he became a free agent. He would not be worth that rental price at all to me.

[bergie56]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Why you wouldnt give up minor leaguers for a 22 yr old proven .300/30/100 guy astounds me.

There are not many players I would want straight up for Cabrera.

Please tell me why it would be worth basically renting him?

[thmst30]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

novelty will only take you so far. Eventually you have to have players that draw and win some games

Well yes, but as soon as they move I expect them to become aggressive in the FA market. Thats what they do. They load up, win a WS, have a firesale, load up, win the WS, etc.

[VanillaGorilla]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Why you would even consider breaking up what Johan and Liriano could be astounds me.

Because the Twins need a 3rd baseman. The Twins also need power hitters. Miguel Cabrera, is a power hitting 3rd baseman. The Twins would still have a pretty good pitching staff, and they would have a middle of the lineup that would be amazing for years, with Mauer and Cabrera (who Peter Gammons said, in 2004, were 2 future Hall of Famers.

[deeman11747]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

You guys are crazy. I'd give up anyone in the Red Sox minor league system to get Willis, and most of the guys on their ML roster. The Orioles would be stupid to not trade a guy like Adam Loewen for him. Same goes for the Yankees and Cano/Wang.

Not picking on Cam here, because there were several threads about Willis and possible trades for him but this was the first one I found but,

Today I was thinking back to all the talk about Cano and Wang for him, and it looks like it wouldve been not such a good move.

Willis- 3.80 ERA 152 K's 1.40 WHIP

Wang- 3.64 ERA 68 K's 1.31 WHIP

Cano- .336 BA .856 OPS 70 RBIs in 110 games.

[Stu]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Not picking on Cam here, because there were several threads about Willis and possible trades for him but this was the first one I found but,

Today I was thinking back to all the talk about Cano and Wang for him, and it looks like it wouldve been not such a good move.

Willis- 3.80 ERA 152 K's 1.40 WHIP

Wang- 3.64 ERA 68 K's 1.31 WHIP

Cano- .336 BA .856 OPS 70 RBIs in 110 games.

I stand by my statement. Willis is the kind of guy you build a rotation around, regardless of his stats this year. Wang and Cano are nice players but I'd still take Willis.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Willis and Cabrera on the trading block?

Lets see Wang play for more than one season before making judgments.