A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

**mjb2124** · 07-06-2006, 10:23 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by GregO

Thanks, I wouldnt of expected the NL had a lead over the AL, it seems like we always dominate them...oh well i guess their are alot more years to go so we get get a lead...

The AL has really only dominated last year and this year. Before that it was pretty even - slight edge to the NL.

It's cyclical. Just the way it works.

**GregO** · 07-06-2006, 10:23 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by GBrushTWood

Dude, you are 16 years old. You were born in 1990.
That is the only reason why people aren't annihilating you more than you deserve based on your comments in this thread. Obviously you are a fanboy, and I acted similarly at your age, but there's at least 20 people who visit the baseball board that have known the game for a lot longer than you've been alive. These people, along with myself, would agree that Hafner and Liriano deserve to go to the game.
Any argument that opposes this is inherently wrong.

I agree...Liriano, Schilling and Hafner should be there...but has there every been a year where we didnt argue who shouldnt and who should have? Thats what the advantage is when winning the World Series, you can take your own players, and that is what Ozzie is doing. Maybe they need to add a few more spots on the roster so we can take Hafner and Liriano. Maybe we should take out the rule where every team has to be represented!

You cant say that these guys arent deserving, besides maybe AJP, but you cant be mad at him, he didnt put himself on the ballot. You cant blame the White Sox fans either because obviously we are going to vote for our own players.

**SPTO** · 07-06-2006, 10:26 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by joeboo

The AL has really only dominated last year and this year. Before that it was pretty even - slight edge to the NL.

It's cyclical. Just the way it works.

NL hasn't won since '96. I'd say that's a long stretch there.

Oh and as far as booing AJ could you make a sign that reads OS HATES AJ

**GregO** · 07-06-2006, 10:26 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

And us SOX fans could be mad too...Crede deserved to be in their just as much as Schilling! But Glaus is in there...I thought for sure Crede was going to be in there, he's been great ever since there were rumors of us trading him for Chavez last year. IMO Glaus should be staying home with his .240 AVG, and Crede should be shipped to the ASG.

**Beantown** · 07-06-2006, 10:27 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

There is no way you can say Crede deserves to be there more than Glaus. He's been one of the best players on one of the better teams in the American League, and along with Wells, has kept the Jays in a solid third place in the AL East.

**GregO** · 07-06-2006, 10:29 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by SPTO

NL hasn't won since '96. I'd say that's a long stretch there.

Oh and as far as booing AJ could you make a sign that reads OS HATES AJ

And then on the bottom put in smaller letters...besides GREGO =D

I seriously love how everyone hates AJP...I would HATE AJ if he wasnt on the Sox so i dont blame you guys at all...I would probably HATE Ozzie too, but thank god these 2 our playing and coaching on our team or we would still be waiting for 'That Year'

**mjb2124** · 07-06-2006, 10:31 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by SPTO

NL hasn't won since '96. I'd say that's a long stretch there.

Oh and as far as booing AJ could you make a sign that reads OS HATES AJ

I meant the entire interleague W/L record....not just the All Star Game.

Sign will be made. Maybe I'll make t-shirts and pass them out as well.

**GregO** · 07-06-2006, 10:33 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by Longhorn6

There is no way you can say Crede deserves to be there more than Glaus. He's been one of the best players on one of the better teams in the American League, and along with Wells, has kept the Jays in a solid third place in the AL East.

Umm okay...You can say that exactly about CREDE...he has a .300 avg, 16 HRs, 57 RBIs, hardly ever Ks(Glaus has 77-Crede has 25) and has arguably been just as good as Konerko and Dye in some situations. Crede is soooo inCREDEible clutch with his 3 Grand slams, and his over .500 avg with the bases loaded this year. He is also very good with RISP w/ 2 outs I believe. But Crede comes to play defense, and especially in the 7th inning on!

**BGarrett7** · 07-06-2006, 10:34 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by GregO

I seriously love how everyone hates AJP...I would HATE AJ if he wasnt on the Sox so i dont blame you guys at all...I would probably HATE Ozzie too, but thank god these 2 our playing and coaching on our team or we would still be waiting for 'That Year'

I still can't get past how many people feel obligated to like a guy they would normally hate simply because of the team they play on.

**mjb2124** · 07-06-2006, 10:35 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by GregO

IMO Glaus should be staying home with his .240 AVG, and Crede should be shipped to the ASG.

Amazingly enough, Glaus and his .240 BA still gives him a higher OBP than Crede and his .300 BA.

Another reason I think BA by itself is a useless stat.

**SPTO** · 07-06-2006, 10:36 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by joeboo

I meant the entire interleague W/L record....not just the All Star Game.

Sign will be made. Maybe I'll make t-shirts and pass them out as well.

Ah I see, that's what i get for only skimming the thread. Yeah it's only been the last couple years.

Cool about the sign and possible T-Shirt. Maybe FOX will pan the crowd and see you. I'd love to hear Buck and McCarver try to figure out what OS stands for.

**GregO** · 07-06-2006, 10:36 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

They ahve the same exact OBP... it is .340

**BGarrett7** · 07-06-2006, 10:39 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by SPTO

Cool about the sign and possible T-Shirt. Maybe FOX will pan the crowd and see you. I'd love to hear Buck and McCarver try to figure out what OS stands for.

It's obviously a reference to former 80's Cardinals great Orlando Sanchez.

**mjb2124** · 07-06-2006, 10:41 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by GregO

They ahve the same exact OBP... it is .340

Not according to ESPN (which might not include tonight's games. I don't know):

Crede: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...e?statsId=6411
Glaus: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...e?statsId=6063

.339 for Crede
.342 for Glaus

Glaus has a decent OBP considering his BA. Crede has a terrible OBP for his BA. Shows he doesn't walk much. He also doesn't K much though.

**mjb2124** · 07-06-2006, 10:46 PM

Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

Originally posted by SPTO

Ah I see, that's what i get for only skimming the thread. Yeah it's only been the last couple years.

Cool about the sign and possible T-Shirt. Maybe FOX will pan the crowd and see you. I'd love to hear Buck and McCarver try to figure out what OS stands for.

I'm gonna try to get some pictures up from the entire weekend. I'm going to everything aside from the HR Derby. There's a Fanfest on Saturday with HOF artifacts and displays, negro league displays and Pirates memorabilia and displays. Hopefully I get some good pics of that stuff.

Sunday is the Future's Game. I'm going, but probably won't take many pics.

Monday is the Derby. Couldn't go to that.

Tuesday is the game. Going to try to take a lot of pics for this one.

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