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  • ExtremeGamer
    Extra Life 11/3/18
    • Jul 2002
    • 35299

    #61
    Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

    Originally posted by Longhorn6
    Not attacking anyone, on my part, I just want to see if he believes the players he thought were deserving were MORE deserving than the WS players that got in.
    I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Psy and Kodiak playing in traffic. But it goes for everyone, just talk about the players, not attacking each other.

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    • Kodiak33
      MVP
      • Aug 2002
      • 1093

      #62
      Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

      Originally posted by Longhorn6
      Thanks.

      But do you think Schillnig, Liriano and Hafner should be there over Buerhle, Jenks and AJP?
      Yes I do.

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      • GregO
        Pro
        • Apr 2003
        • 845

        #63
        Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

        some please tell me how Jenks and Konerko are not deserving? Buehrle was very much deserving before he got crushed THE DAY HE WAS ELECTED. And that wasnt even his fault, it was Ozzies fault for not pinch hitting for him in the 4th right after Uribe's HR and then in the next half inning he gave up another 4 runs.

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        • Stu
          All Star
          • Jun 2004
          • 7924

          #64
          Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

          Originally posted by GregO
          some please tell me how Jenks and Konerko are not deserving? Buehrle was very much deserving before he got crushed THE DAY HE WAS ELECTED. And that wasnt even his fault, it was Ozzies fault for not pinch hitting for him in the 4th right after Uribe's HR and then in the next half inning he gave up another 4 runs.
          The point is, there are other players who were MORE deserving, namely Hafner and Liriano. Nobody is trying to take anything away from the White Sox players. The AL leaders in ERA and OPS aren't playing in the all star game, nuff ced.
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          • Lintyfresh85
            Where have I been?
            • Jul 2002
            • 17492

            #65
            Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

            Konerko isn't deserving because Hafner is a better player, stats prove it.
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            • GregO
              Pro
              • Apr 2003
              • 845

              #66
              Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

              Originally posted by Kodiak33
              Yes I do.
              In my honest opinion, I say that Jenks should make it over Schilling, Schilling makes it over Buehrle(with the stats now), Paul Konerko makes it over Hafner(for the simple fact that Konerko could play 1B alot better then Hafner and whos going to go in for Ortiz in the 5th or 6th? A DH? why not put a very underated fielder in Konerko play 1B) and Liriano should have beaten AJP obviously, BUT AJP did win it, so how could you blame anyone, things just work out the way it does. How great would it be if Pierzynski got a gamewinning homerun, wow how much would that opinion on who should go and who shouldnt change.

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              • Scottdau
                Banned
                • Feb 2003
                • 32580

                #67
                Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

                Originally posted by GeePee20
                9-1
                1.99 ERA
                .97 WHIP
                94 Ks in 81.1 IP

                Looks like an All Star to me. This is just disgusting that one of the best pitchers in baseball is left out. The kid is ridiculous and easily more deserving than Pierzynkski.

                Kinda weird that now there's this debate over Pierzynski and Liriano as they were traded for each other a few years ago in one of the worst trades ever as the Giants gave up Liriano, Nathan, and Bonser for that POS Pierzynski who was gone after 1 year in SF.
                Yep that is why I say Brian Sab should have been fired! But AJ an all star is laughable!

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                • ExtremeGamer
                  Extra Life 11/3/18
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 35299

                  #68
                  Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

                  Originally posted by GregO
                  In my honest opinion, I say that Jenks should make it over Schilling, Schilling makes it over Buehrle(with the stats now), Paul Konerko makes it over Hafner(for the simple fact that Konerko could play 1B alot better then Hafner and whos going to go in for Ortiz in the 5th or 6th? A DH? why not put a very underated fielder in Konerko play 1B) and Liriano should have beaten AJP obviously, BUT AJP did win it, so how could you blame anyone, things just work out the way it does. How great would it be if Pierzynski got a gamewinning homerun, wow how much would that opinion on who should go and who shouldnt change.
                  I said it before, I agree with the assessment of Konerko over Hafner. I think Hafner is an all star, but since it's a NL park this year, and Ortiz is already on the team, Hafner loses out. It sucks, but that's life. Liriano got screwed though, no one can argue that to me. Guillen should add him when Manny is taken off IMO. We'll see if he does the right thing.

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                  • Stu
                    All Star
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 7924

                    #69
                    Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

                    Originally posted by Superstar
                    Konerko isn't deserving because Hafner is a better player, stats prove it.
                    Amazing how simple it is. The idea that Konerko should go after Hafner because he plays 1B everyday is laughable.

                    IMO it shouldve been Liriano, Verlander and Hafner over Buehrle, Jenks and Konerko.
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                    • Psyblast
                      2023 National Champions
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 42584

                      #70
                      Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

                      Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                      I said it before, I agree with the assessment of Konerko over Hafner. I think Hafner is an all star, but since it's a NL park this year, and Ortiz is already on the team, Hafner loses out. It sucks, but that's life. Liriano got screwed though, no one can argue that to me. Guillen should add him when Manny is taken off IMO. We'll see if he does the right thing.


                      Wasn't Ordonez added in Manny's spot?

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                      • GregO
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 845

                        #71
                        Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

                        Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                        I said it before, I agree with the assessment of Konerko over Hafner. I think Hafner is an all star, but since it's a NL park this year, and Ortiz is already on the team, Hafner loses out. It sucks, but that's life. Liriano got screwed though, no one can argue that to me. Guillen should add him when Manny is taken off IMO. We'll see if he does the right thing.
                        They already took Magglio Ordonez...Their is someone that will get hurt or wont want to play in this game...and I hope that Ozzie picks Liriano to just shut everyone up, even though I really think Crede should go =)...but not over Liriano.

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                        • Beantown
                          #DoYourJob
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 31523

                          #72
                          Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

                          Yup...Mags is playing for Manny.

                          And like he said, we're not taking away from the WS stats, Buherle, Jenks and konerko have had very good seasons, but Schilling, Verlander, Liriano, Hafner have all had better seasons.

                          And no...AJP hitting a GW homerun wouldn't change the fact that he didn't belong there.

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                          • Scottdau
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 32580

                            #73
                            Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

                            Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                            I said it before, I agree with the assessment of Konerko over Hafner. I think Hafner is an all star, but since it's a NL park this year, and Ortiz is already on the team, Hafner loses out. It sucks, but that's life. Liriano got screwed though, no one can argue that to me. Guillen should add him when Manny is taken off IMO. We'll see if he does the right thing.

                            I have no problem with who went or didn't! But AJ come on! The guy sucks plain and simple! White socks fan you will learn to hate AJ as much as the Giants fans! Give it time! He has no arm!

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                            • GregO
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 845

                              #74
                              Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

                              Originally posted by camulos
                              Amazing how simple it is. The idea that Konerko should go after Hafner because he plays 1B everyday is laughable.

                              IMO it shouldve been Liriano, Verlander and Hafner over Buehrle, Jenks and Konerko.
                              Okay then camulos, who will play 1B when Ortiz is going to be taken out? Ozzie knows what hes doing, TRUST HIM he will get us AL fans a victory. What is so wrong about Konerkos stats anyways?

                              PS: AJP just got a HR =) right after JD23's 22nd

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                              • Beantown
                                #DoYourJob
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 31523

                                #75
                                Re: A.J. Pierzynski and Nomar Garciaparra won Final Ballot

                                Nothing is wrong with konerko's stats...it's just that hafner has better stats, and has been a better player this year. If it wasn't for him, Cleveland would be even further out than they are right now.

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