As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

[NYJets]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Ya know, I wish some of you who had teams involved in pennant races did have him so you know what I was talking about. All you guys see is the numbers, but baseball is all about situational hitting, something that which ARod is terrible. Yes, he's going to hit 35 Homers and knock in 120 RBI's. And the last time he hit less than 40 homers was in '04, as a Yankee. Before that, you gotta go all the way back to '97, in which he hit 23 homers. My point is the guy is getting paid WAY too much money for what he's worth and everyone thinks he's awesome. His stock is still high, so take him off our hands, take his bloated salary, we'll take Oswalt or Wells' salary, and we'll see who's happier in October.

You can say what you will, but almost everyone I know in the NY City area agrees with me. Yes, we, as Yankee fans, are spoiled by the money our organization can dish out for top players. But when the highest paid player by far cannot come up with a clutch hit ever (or even a sacrifice fly), he shouldn't be the highest paid player. As I said, he is worth no more than $10 mill per year, and that is generous. There are at least 20 people in the league I'd pay higher than ARod. At least, meaning probably more.

[CMH]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

As I said, he is worth no more than $10 mill per year, and that is generous. There are at least 20 people in the league I'd pay higher than ARod. At least, meaning probably more.

You are still assuming that salary equals production.

Keep in mind that the Rangers outbid themselves and the entire universe when they gave Alex 250 million over 10 years.

The Yankees didn't offer Alex that money. They're just paying a portion of it to have one of the best players in baseball in their lineup.

I'd also like to read you list those 20 players that are worth more than Alex Rodriguez.

[Chip Douglass]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Ya know, I wish some of you who had teams involved in pennant races did have him so you know what I was talking about. All you guys see is the numbers, but baseball is all about situational hitting, something that which ARod is terrible. Yes, he's going to hit 35 Homers and knock in 120 RBI's. And the last time he hit less than 40 homers was in '04, as a Yankee. Before that, you gotta go all the way back to '97, in which he hit 23 homers. My point is the guy is getting paid WAY too much money for what he's worth and everyone thinks he's awesome. His stock is still high, so take him off our hands, take his bloated salary, we'll take Oswalt or Wells' salary, and we'll see who's happier in October.

You can say what you will, but almost everyone I know in the NY City area agrees with me. Yes, we, as Yankee fans, are spoiled by the money our organization can dish out for top players. But when the highest paid player by far cannot come up with a clutch hit ever (or even a sacrifice fly), he shouldn't be the highest paid player. As I said, he is worth no more than $10 mill per year, and that is generous. There are at least 20 people in the league I'd pay higher than ARod. At least, meaning probably more.

And I am sure last year you were singing this same tune...

[Stu]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Why do you care how much he makes. It's not like it prevents the Yankees from signing or trading for other players and it's not coming out of your pocket. Unless your last name is Steinbrenner, stfu and be happy with the huge numbers he puts up year after year.

[dkgojackets]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

This seems like a great time to list the 20 players you would rather have than ARod if the salaries were equal. I can think of maybe 5.

Out of curiousity, what would you accept from Florida for him. I want to see what you place his value as.

[ehh]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

While we shouldn't get rid of A-Rod, you can't argue that he's had his fair share of problems this year.

I posted this in the Yankee team thread...

Only Michael Cuddyer of the Twins drives in a lower percentage of runners from third base with less than two outs.

That's certainly a problem since he's suppose to be the cornerstone of our offense. You can't deny that he has blown alot of relatively easy RBI chances this year. Anyone who watches the Yankees alot has to admit that.

But that being said, in the month of August where the fans have been booing him like crazy at home - he's hitting .325 with 3 HR, 17 RBI, 7 2B, 14 BB.

I think that's part of the problem in some fans eyes - for a superstar he struggles to make some simple, routine plays. I was at the Angels game last Monday when A-Rod had the sac fly to deep right with the bases loaded to get a run in. The crowd cheered him loudly, and not sarcasticly. Fans just want him to be able to do the small things, aka the "things that Jeter does."


EDIT: Two nice defensive plays from A-Rod this inning.

[CMH]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

eh, to the things that Jeter does.

Jeter is a very good player, but Yankee fans get carried away with him.

I do agree that Alex has struggled in situations he is supposed to excel in. That's not something anyone can avoid knowing. The thing for me is that the fans have been way too hard on him. He is still producing well, albeit not at ARod type production. I can still name 29 other teams in baseball that would love to have Alex Rodriguez if they could afford him.

[specialman1234]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

People I would take over ARod:

Roy Halladay
Vernon Wells
Johan Santana
Albert Pujols
Andruw Jones
Ryan Howard
Miguel Cabrera
David Ortiz
Manny Ramirez
Alfonso Soriano (shouldn't have traded in the first place)
Paul Konerko
Jim Thome
Travis Hafner
Vlad Guerrero
Nomar Garciaparra
Aramis Ramirez
Miguel Tejada
Carlos Beltran
Justin Morneau
Lance Berkman


I would take all 20 of those guys over ARod. Maybe 1 or 2 I'd second guess, but for the most part, this entire list is worth more than ARod.

[specialman1234]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

There is no question, I am being hard on the guy, I said that from the beginning. My point from the beginnig though was that he is not worth what he is paid, regardless of whether it comes out of my pocket or not, he isn't worth it.

[Dice]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Ya know, I wish some of you who had teams involved in pennant races did have him so you know what I was talking about. All you guys see is the numbers, but baseball is all about situational hitting, something that which ARod is terrible. Yes, he's going to hit 35 Homers and knock in 120 RBI's. And the last time he hit less than 40 homers was in '04, as a Yankee. Before that, you gotta go all the way back to '97, in which he hit 23 homers. My point is the guy is getting paid WAY too much money for what he's worth and everyone thinks he's awesome. His stock is still high, so take him off our hands, take his bloated salary, we'll take Oswalt or Wells' salary, and we'll see who's happier in October.

You can say what you will, but almost everyone I know in the NY City area agrees with me. Yes, we, as Yankee fans, are spoiled by the money our organization can dish out for top players. But when the highest paid player by far cannot come up with a clutch hit ever (or even a sacrifice fly), he shouldn't be the highest paid player. As I said, he is worth no more than $10 mill per year, and that is generous. There are at least 20 people in the league I'd pay higher than ARod. At least, meaning probably more.

I can say the same thing about Paul Konerko. He hits into a billion double plays in key situations BUT the White Sox aren't so quick to get rid of him. He's in the lineup because he's a threat. The same goes for A-Rod. I don't think A-Rod is bad during key situations I just think that teams are playing him smartly. They know one mistake and A-Rod is sending it out of the park. Same goes for Konerko. You make a mistake against him and he'll make you pay. So I'm pretty sure that with advanced scouting the pitchers that are pitching to A-Rod during key situations are highly concetrating.

If you guys don't want A-Rod we'll trade for Juan Uribe. Then we'll see how happy you are after that.

[joeysosa]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

My message to spoiled Yankee fans referring to A-Rod: "Please, keep booing him! I'll take him any day!"

[SPTO]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

1. If this is the biggest problem in the Bronx then every team in the Majors sure wish they had that problem.

2. The guy has such a mammoth contract that it's near impossible to trade him. The only other teams that could possibly fit Arod into their budget would be the Red Sox and/or the Dodgers. (tho I believe with the newish ownership they've slashed the budget) Face it Yankee Fans, Arod may be a "problem" at times but he's YOUR problem.

Blame Steinbrenner

[specialman1234]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

If you guys don't want A-Rod we'll trade for Juan Uribe. Then we'll see how happy you are after that.

See, this is a ridiculous thing to say because Juan Uribe isn't worth ARod, no matter how bad he is in the clutch. I'm not gonna trade you $20 for $10 in return, even if your $10 bill is greener.

[SPTO]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

See, this is a ridiculous thing to say because Juan Uribe isn't worth ARod, no matter how bad he is in the clutch. I'm not gonna trade you $20 for $10 in return, even if your $10 bill is greener.

See that's the problem you face. You're never going to get fair value for Arod. It would either be:

A) Arod for a lot of prospects and one bad contract

or

B) Arod and the Yankees having to eat a lot of his contract for another really bad contract coming their way.


So economically it doesn't even make sense to trade the guy. Face it you're STUCK with him.

[ehh]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Rangers entitled to pay the same % of A-Rod's contract regardless of where he goes?

The Yanks pay what, $10m of the $25 million each year?