As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

[Stu]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Rangers entitled to pay the same % of A-Rod's contract regardless of where he goes?

The Yanks pay what, $10m of the $25 million each year?

The best I can tell is the Rangers are on the hook for $70 mil, $36mil of which is deferred. The Yankees are on the hook for about $84 mil (about $16 mil per year).

[ehh]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

The best I can tell is the Rangers are on the hook for $70 mil, $36mil of which is deferred. The Yankees are on the hook for about $84 mil (about $16 mil per year).

I can't find anything concrete, but I remember Mike & The Mad Dog talking about his contract when the aquired him and I thought the Yanks were paying him between $9-$11m a year.

[Stu]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

I can't find anything concrete, but I remember Mike & The Mad Dog talking about his contract when the aquired him and I thought the Yanks were paying him between $9-$11m a year.

I just looked here: http://www.hardballdollars.com/

His contract is confusing as hell though. Look at the incentives: $50k 6th-10th MVP; $100k All-Star; $100k most All-Star votes; $100k Gold Glove; $100k Silver Slugger; $100k AP/Baseball America/Sporting News All-Star; $100k Player of the Year by above; $150k DS MVP or LCS MVP; $200k WS MVP; $200k 2nd-5th MVP; $500k 1st MVP, $1m 2nd MVP; $1.5m subsequent MVP; can void contract after 2007 season. After the 2008 or 2009 season, can void unless salary is $32m $1m more than any other position player.

[BGarrett7]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

But as soon as he comes to a pennant contender, he cannot hit, he cannot field, he cannot sacrifice runners over, all he does is strike out, hit into double-plays, and make errors.

Good to see even some Yankee fans are finally realizing this.

[SPTO]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

No wonder he puts so much pressure on himself.

Whatever happened to a simple contract without all those crazy incentives?

[Dice]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

See, this is a ridiculous thing to say because Juan Uribe isn't worth ARod, no matter how bad he is in the clutch. I'm not gonna trade you $20 for $10 in return, even if your $10 bill is greener.

I already know Uribe is not even worth 1/4th of A-Rod. BUT why are you so quick to rid yourself of one of the best players in the game today? Is he worth the contract? Remains to be seen BUT pretty soon someone else will be paid the same amount of money due to the rising contracts. I'm pretty sure Nolan Ryan, who was the first player to be paid $1 million per year, took a lot of flack for getting paid that much money. Now one million dollars is nothing to an average-to-all star baseball player.

But what I'm getting at is why are so many New Yorkers talking like this guy is crap!? This guy is having a bad year. Probably his first bad year in his entire career. So what's going to happen when he rebounds next year and hits over .300 over 40 HR's and over 140 RBI's? Will he still suck?

[BGarrett7]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Will he still suck?

If he continues to do crap in the clutch, then yes.

[Kashanova]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

this thread is riduclous

Arod is just never going to make anyone happy

[CMH]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

If he continues to do crap in the clutch, then yes.

Excuse me while I drink some milk and let it run out of my nose from so much laughter.

[CMH]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

People I would take over ARod:

Roy Halladay
Vernon Wells
Johan Santana
Albert Pujols
Andruw Jones
Ryan Howard
Miguel Cabrera
David Ortiz
Manny Ramirez
Alfonso Soriano (shouldn't have traded in the first place)
Paul Konerko
Jim Thome
Travis Hafner
Vlad Guerrero
Nomar Garciaparra
Aramis Ramirez
Miguel Tejada
Carlos Beltran
Justin Morneau
Lance Berkman


I would take all 20 of those guys over ARod. Maybe 1 or 2 I'd second guess, but for the most part, this entire list is worth more than ARod.

I can agree with some of those players, but to me Alex Rodriguez is still the third best player in baseball behind Albert Pujols and Vlad Guerrero. People can disagree, but I enjoy having a guy who is capable of driving in 100 runs, scoring 100 runs, hitting 30 homeruns, batting .300, getting on-base nearly 40% of the time, and stealing 20+ bases a year all while playing very good defense at 3B/SS

If you want to argue against all that because of his play this year then go ahead, but I'm going to be honest - I'd just think you're being ridiculous.

edit:

I don't compare pitchers to hitters.

[ryanm1058123]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

ehh and specialman are an embarassment to all Yankee fans.

[BGarrett7]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Excuse me while I drink some milk and let it run out of my nose from so much laughter.

Did I say that I believe he sucks? No. Definitely not the case. Aside from Pujols, there isn't a player in the game right now I would want in the middle of my lineup more than A-Rod. But will he continued to be ripped apart until he is able to produce when it matters? You damn well better believe it.

[CMH]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Did I say that I believe he sucks? No. Definitely not the case. Aside from Pujols, there isn't a player in the game right now I would want in the middle of my lineup more than A-Rod. But will he continued to be ripped apart until he is able to produce when it matters? You damn well better believe it.

I'm sorry, man. I shouldn't have posted because the words without my facial expression just doesn't come out the right way.

I was honestly being sarcastic while poking fun at you at the same time (just as a joke). Nothing personal on my end. I hope you feel the same way.

[BGarrett7]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

I'm sorry, man. I shouldn't have posted because the words without my facial expression just doesn't come out the right way.

I was honestly being sarcastic while poking fun at you at the same time (just as a joke). Nothing personal on my end. I hope you feel the same way.

It's cool. Misunderstandings happen.

[CMH]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

It's cool. Misunderstandings happen.

Truth is, you're right.

Alex can hit 40 homeruns a year and bat .320 while driving in 120 runs. He can win MVP awards every other year. He can make a few errors at third as long as he follows it up with a nice play the next time.

But, if he doesn't come through when most fans expect him to, it won't matter.

It's already become a situation where the media has not only gotten into ARod's head, but also the fans. His at-bats are scrutinized beyond belief. Everytime he comes up with runners on he is expected to drive in that run or he is a failure. Not even Ortiz is expected to be that successful in Boston.