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  • ZB9
    Hall Of Fame
    • Nov 2004
    • 18387

    #91
    Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

    ah big deal. it's just a greenie test

    i was thinking he failed a steroid test. this is not a big deal imo

    btw, does he need to fail a test for people to know he did steroids? McGuire certainly didnt fail any tests

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    • jim416
      Banned
      • Feb 2003
      • 10606

      #92
      Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

      Okay, no big deal, but, one thing I tell my son, if you mess up, admit it, take your lumps, move on. People willl respect you if you speak the truth. He's followed that advice and I love him for it.

      This guy? No big deal? I'll just blame someone else, or just plead ignorance. What a joke.

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      • Stu
        All Star
        • Jun 2004
        • 7924

        #93
        Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

        Originally posted by jim416
        Okay, no big deal, but, one thing I tell my son, if you mess up, admit it, take your lumps, move on. People willl respect you if you speak the truth. He's followed that advice and I love him for it.

        This guy? No big deal? I'll just blame someone else, or just plead ignorance. What a joke.
        Exactly how I feel about it. Everyone was using greenies so its not that surprising but to blame it on a teammate is just lame.
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        • ZB9
          Hall Of Fame
          • Nov 2004
          • 18387

          #94
          Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

          Originally posted by camulos
          Exactly how I feel about it. Everyone was using greenies so its not that surprising but to blame it on a teammate is just lame.
          he blamed someone else?

          if so...wow what an A-hole

          like Jim said, just own it and move on. That's incredible that he would blame someone else.

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          • jim416
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 10606

            #95
            Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

            He will be hounded by this? He could end it by saying....

            "Yes, I did it. Was tested, it's not Sweeney's fault and I apologize to him for even bringing that up. I shouldn't have done it. It's over and there's nothing else to say except I did it, got caught. The second time will result in action against me, per league rules. You guys (the press) have a nice day."
            If the press continues to hound him, then they need a boot in the rear.

            But, I'm only dreamin', on both counts.

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            • Scottdau
              Banned
              • Feb 2003
              • 32580

              #96
              Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

              I agree with all your post. It would be great to man up, but that is something this World is lacking. I work with kids that don't owe up to what they have done!.

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              • SportsTop
                The Few. The Proud.
                • Jul 2003
                • 6716

                #97
                Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

                Originally posted by sroz39
                I don't think he'll be a first ballot hall of famer, as the voters will spite him and not let him be one. I also don't think that he would've been one if he retired in 1998. However, I do think he would be a first ballot hall of famer if in 1999 he continued to play clean from then until he retired. He was putting up great numbers and needed only to continue to do so for a few more years, IMO, to be first ballot.
                I am by no means a Bonds apologist, but he was easily a first ballot HOFer prior to '99. His MVP shares alone prior to '99 puts him in on the first ballot (find me an eligible player in the top 25 in MVP shares who isn't in the HOF) and Bonds is in the top five in that category without his MVP shares after '99.

                The BBWAA are a bunch of hypocrites who suddenly decided to make themselves the morality police and pass judgement without all of the facts.

                That being said, I think Bonds, McGwire, Palmeiro, et al should be measured by their numbers against the peers of their generation. MLB did nothing to curtail the usage of steroids when it benefitted them and the players should be held to the precedent MLB set.

                Personally, I think Bonds is a snake who knowingly took the amphetamines in question and knowingly took steroids. But I'm not going to sit here and pretend like players of generations past didn't skirt the rules and break the law during their careers in their pursuit of bettering their performance.

                Today's performance enhancers are the greenies of 50's and 60's and the cocaine of the 70's and 80's. Given the opportunity I would bet my next paycheck that the players of yesteryear would take performance enhancers if they played in today's game.
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                • drae2
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 1450

                  #98
                  Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

                  Originally posted by Squint
                  And steroids have been in the game since the 80's. What's your point?

                  Anyhow, this is a major blow to Bonds if true. He can kiss is already dying hopes of the Hall of Fame good-bye with the results of his test.

                  I'm so tired of this witch hunt. If you look at Bonds' numbers before he was accused of taking steroids, they were Hall worthy, period. And if he did take them so what. MLB knew what was going on, and did nothing about it because Mac and Sosa were saving the game. So if MLB turned a blind eye and did nothing about what was going on, then Mac, Sosa, Bonds all should be in the hall, and that's just real talk.
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                  • drae2
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 1450

                    #99
                    Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

                    Originally posted by Squint
                    I am by no means a Bonds apologist, but he was easily a first ballot HOFer prior to '99. His MVP shares alone prior to '99 puts him in on the first ballot (find me an eligible player in the top 25 in MVP shares who isn't in the HOF) and Bonds is in the top five in that category without his MVP shares after '99.

                    The BBWAA are a bunch of hypocrites who suddenly decided to make themselves the morality police and pass judgement without all of the facts.

                    That being said, I think Bonds, McGwire, Palmeiro, et al should be measured by their numbers against the peers of their generation. MLB did nothing to curtail the usage of steroids when it benefitted them and the players should be held to the precedent MLB set.

                    Personally, I think Bonds is a snake who knowingly took the amphetamines in question and knowingly took steroids. But I'm not going to sit here and pretend like players of generations past didn't skirt the rules and break the law during their careers in their pursuit of bettering their performance.

                    Today's performance enhancers are the greenies of 50's and 60's and the cocaine of the 70's and 80's. Given the opportunity I would bet my next paycheck that the players of yesteryear would take performance enhancers if they played in today's game.
                    And don't forget about the cheaters like Gaylord Perry who are in the Hall. Anyway you slice it, cheating is cheating.
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                    • Scottdau
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 32580

                      #100
                      Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

                      Personally, I think Bonds is a snake who knowingly took the amphetamines in question and knowingly took steroids. But I'm not going to sit here and pretend like players of generations past didn't skirt the rules and break the law during their careers in their pursuit of bettering their performance.

                      So does that make Mr. Merriman a snake too Like I said this is just a part of sports. Steroids will always be an issue. I can care less who took them or didn't. That is just how it goes. I would probably take them too. If it meant getting a hugh contract

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                      • caseyd
                        D*d y** g*t th* m*m*?
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2367

                        #101
                        Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

                        Originally posted by Squint

                        Today's performance enhancers are the greenies of 50's and 60's and the cocaine of the 70's and 80's. Given the opportunity I would bet my next paycheck that the players of yesteryear would take performance enhancers if they played in today's game.
                        You're right, which makes me all the more irritated that Dale Murphy gets no respect in HOF voting. The guy was one of the best players of his era and did it while being as clean as a bar of ivory soap.
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                        • AI_Franchise
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 2146

                          #102
                          Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

                          Originally posted by Scottd
                          Personally, I think Bonds is a snake who knowingly took the amphetamines in question and knowingly took steroids. But I'm not going to sit here and pretend like players of generations past didn't skirt the rules and break the law during their careers in their pursuit of bettering their performance.

                          So does that make Mr. Merriman a snake too Like I said this is just a part of sports. Steroids will always be an issue. I can care less who took them or didn't. That is just how it goes. I would probably take them too. If it meant getting a hugh contract
                          success + steroids = HATE

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                          • caseyd
                            D*d y** g*t th* m*m*?
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 2367

                            #103
                            Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

                            Originally posted by Scottd
                            So does that make Mr. Merriman a snake too Like I said this is just a part of sports. Steroids will always be an issue. I can care less who took them or didn't. That is just how it goes. I would probably take them too. If it meant getting a hugh contract
                            Would that be Laurie or Grant?
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                            • Scottdau
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 32580

                              #104
                              Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

                              Originally posted by caseyd
                              Would that be Laurie or Grant?
                              Explain this too me. I don't get it?

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                              • Scottdau
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 32580

                                #105
                                Re: Breaking News: Bonds failed drug test

                                Originally posted by AI_Franchise
                                success + steroids = HATE
                                Yeah I will be hated all the way to the bank

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