Best pitching rotation

[ndeezlo]

Re: Best pitching rotation

Let's decide it in October, 1984 all over again.

[ktd1976]

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Id love to see the Tigers and Padre's in a '84 World Series rematch

[SPTO]

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Let's decide it in October, 1984 all over again.

Could the Padres please wear their 1984 unis too?

One of my faves of all time!

[ktd1976]

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Weren't those uni's voted the worst of all time on ESPN a while back?

[NYJets]

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Peavy and Germano have been better on the road and at home. But, look at the ERA jumps for Young, Maddux, and Wells on the road versus at home.

Maddux: 3.48 to 4.42
Young: .82 to 3.33
Wells: 2.91 to 6.52

I understand, obviously Petco is a huge pitchers park.

But it obviously can't be too much of a part of Peavy's success when he has a .94 era on the road.

[SPTO]

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Weren't those uni's voted the worst of all time on ESPN a while back?

There are a lot worse uniforms. Don't pick on the McDs style unis!

[dieselboy]

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I understand, obviously Petco is a huge pitchers park.

But it obviously can't be too much of a part of Peavy's success when he has a .94 era on the road.

Could be part of sample size. He has pitched like 12 times on the road and like 6 at home.

Regardless, Peavy is an amazing pitcher. In Petco, in Safeco, on Mars, etc.

[Coug00]

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Don't forget that Peavy and Young not only play in the NL, but they pitch in the most pitcher-friendly park in the league.

I am pretty sure that Comerica is pretty average.

Which is why ERA and WHIP aren't the best statistics to judge a pitcher. They simply don't account for all of the different variables that affect the outcome of a pitcher's performance. They measure as if all defenders, stadiums, and score keepers are the same.

xFIP is a nice, simplistic way to measure a pitcher taking into account defense and park adjustments and putting it in an ERA format. Its not perfect, but way better than ERA and WHIP at measuring a pitcher (and avoids going way into too many metrics).

xFIP
Peavy: 3.30 (3rd in league)
Bonderman: 3.60
Young: 4.26
Verlander: 4.27

Eric Bedard leads all of baseball with a 2.96 xFIP. Atlanta, Houston, LAA, Baltimore, Toronto, and Cleveland all have 2 starters rated higher than Verlander. Oakland and Boston have 3 each ahead of Verlander.

[Briman123]

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Detroit/Padres

Damn you guys are bringing up WAY to many rediculous stats lol.

[snepp]

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Detroit/Padres

Damn you guys are bringing up WAY to many rediculous stats lol.

They're not ridiculous.

[BatsareBugs]

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Don't forget that Peavy and Young not only play in the NL, but they pitch in the most pitcher-friendly park in the league.

Last year, Chris Young had a road ERA of 2.41 and a home ERA of 4.60. Peavy had a road ERA of 4.57 and a home ERA of 3.75.

This year, Chris Young has 3.33 road ERA while having a home ERA of 0.82. In 7 road starts, Peavy has 0.94 ERA and a 3.04 ERA at home in 11 starts.

[BatsareBugs]

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Verlander's no hitter speaks for itself.

Has Peavy or Young done that?

Jose Jiminez once threw a no-hitter, I guess he's better than Peavy and Young by a mile.

[snepp]

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Jose Jiminez once threw a no-hitter, I guess he's better than Peavy and Young by a mile.

How about A.J. Burnett and his 9-walk gem of a no-no?

[ehh]

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- Chase Wright
- Jeff Karstens
- Darrell Rasner
- Tyler Clippard
- Matt DeSalvo

No one is seein' that Top 5.

[snepp]

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Are they all on the DL yet?