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  • oakfan162
    Get Ducked Up!
    • Mar 2006
    • 4724

    #31
    Re: Bonds 1 away

    Originally posted by Brandon13
    I really don't even give a damn anymore. He's gonna break it, there's no way around that. He obviously used steroids and wouldn't have been close to breaking this record without them, but I just can't get mad about it anymore. I'm still gonna watch when he hits number 755 and 756 just because I love baseball so much, but I'm really indifferent about it now.
    That echoes my sentiments exactly. I'm going to watch for the pure spectacle of it all.
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    • Brandon13
      All Star
      • Oct 2005
      • 8915

      #32
      Re: Bonds 1 away

      Originally posted by The GIGGAS
      The thing is... there's no one left in baseball that everyone will get behind to break the record. I'm starting to become convinced that class is gone in sports. The days of Hank Aaron, Wayne Gretzky, John Elway, Barry Sanders, Michael Jordan is gone.

      I think we're stuck looking up to *earmuffs*s... and I'm really worried about kids who are having some of these guys as role models.

      That's one of the main reasons I would rather Bonds not break the record.
      You've still got guys like Duncan in basketball, Tomlinson and Peyton Manning in football, Smoltz and a bunch of other guys in baseball. So there are still a few people left in sports that have class and are still winners.

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      • jim416
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 10606

        #33
        Re: Bonds 1 away

        Originally posted by Scottd
        Well he never tested positive, so there you have it! While I agree he knew. lol He still has come up clean. Also, I am sure Bonds is not the only player. some day all this will come out, and I am sure there will be a lot players on that list! Well, I will say one. His trainers was his friend, so I can see him trusting his friend, but I can also see his friend not giving him something like that, unless he asked for it. So who knows.

        Geez Scott, so he comes up clean. O.J. was found not guilty also. So there you have it. It's been said these guys know how to cheat the test. So as long as he comes up clean he's innocent and no one can have their opinions on this big head, leave the guy alone?

        So his trainer is such a fan/friend he'll slip Bonds some creamroids, unbeknownst to Bonds? Such a friend knowing that steroids DO cause physical problems down the road? What a guy.

        Personally, I don't care if Bonds took the crap or not, he's been a sullen arsehoe for years. Yeah, yeah, so are other players. Explaining bad behavior with more bad behavior.

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        • TheMatrix31
          RF
          • Jul 2002
          • 52927

          #34
          Re: Bonds 1 away

          Instead of worrying about damn steroids and cheating and whatever the hell else, why not appreciate the 754 times that Bonds exhibited his unbelievable hand-eye coordination to get good enough wood on the ball to drive it out of the park?

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          • Brandon13
            All Star
            • Oct 2005
            • 8915

            #35
            Re: Bonds 1 away

            Originally posted by TheMatrix31
            Instead of worrying about damn steroids and cheating and whatever the hell else, why not appreciate the 754 times that Bonds exhibited his unbelievable hand-eye coordination to get good enough wood on the ball to drive it out of the park?
            It's just so hard to separate the two, especially when you have people claiming that steroids can help improve hand-eye coordination.

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            • TheMatrix31
              RF
              • Jul 2002
              • 52927

              #36
              Re: Bonds 1 away

              I don't buy that at all. If anything, wouldn't steroids hurt hand-eye coordination because more muscle mass will slow bat speed?

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              • The GIGGAS
                Timbers - Jags - Hokies
                • Mar 2003
                • 28474

                #37
                Re: Bonds 1 away

                Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                Instead of worrying about damn steroids and cheating and whatever the hell else, why not appreciate the 754 times that Bonds exhibited his unbelievable hand-eye coordination to get good enough wood on the ball to drive it out of the park?
                Regardless of what he's done drugwise... it's hard to separate his character from his record because he's going to be a role model for tons of young baseball fans because he hit so many homers.

                That's why I'm sticking to that why I don't want him to break it, although it's quite obvious he's going to very soon.
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                • Brandon13
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 8915

                  #38
                  Re: Bonds 1 away

                  Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                  I don't buy that at all. If anything, wouldn't steroids hurt hand-eye coordination because more muscle mass will slow bat speed?
                  I've heard several people say it, one of them being one of the chemist's who actually worked on the Clear, the steroids that Bonds "unknowingly" took.

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                  • Husker_OS
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 21459

                    #39
                    Re: Bonds 1 away

                    I won't be watching. I'll check in every so often to see if he hit one.
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                    • remix
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 2718

                      #40
                      Re: Bonds 1 away

                      Originally posted by The GIGGAS
                      Regardless of what he's done drugwise... it's hard to separate his character from his record because he's going to be a role model for tons of young baseball fans because he hit so many homers.

                      That's why I'm sticking to that why I don't want him to break it, although it's quite obvious he's going to very soon.
                      I think it's become pretty sad when Bonds is only remembered for his HR's. He was one of the most versatile players out there, had one of the quickest bats, great defense and a heck of a lot of speed. Of course that's not the case these past few years, but that's what I'll remember him by. Even before all the steroid allegations, Bonds always kept to himself, not really caring what the media thought; this probably ended up hurting him more than he thought when the allegations started to swirl.

                      Regardless of the 95% of people that hate the guy for what he's supposedly done, the same people go out to watch the guy. Most boo because that's the thing to do, he's supposedly the biggest cheat in the world and he can do no right. The thing I don't understand is how some of you guys talk about Hank Aaron as if you were there to see him live. I know for sure that I wasn't around to see him and I don't doubt he was probably one of the greatest, but not many here were around to actually comprehend how great he was.
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                      • The GIGGAS
                        Timbers - Jags - Hokies
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28474

                        #41
                        Re: Bonds 1 away

                        1. I don't watch Bonds. I avoid SportsCenter because Bonds will be on there for like 20 minutes out of an hour when they could use that talking about things that matter.

                        2. He only hits homers now, regardless of what he did in the past.

                        3. I didn't see Hank Aaron either... but from what I have seen of him, he is a class act. Can't say that for Bonds.
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                        • Scottdau
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 32580

                          #42
                          Re: Bonds 1 away

                          Originally posted by The GIGGAS
                          Regardless of what he's done drugwise... it's hard to separate his character from his record because he's going to be a role model for tons of young baseball fans because he hit so many homers.

                          That's why I'm sticking to that why I don't want him to break it, although it's quite obvious he's going to very soon.
                          The truth is he is no role model. Most players aren't either. You have your few, but that is it. Most of these guys have had their asses kiss their whole life, so they don't know how to act. Most pro players that I have met come off pretty arrogant. It is just how it is.
                          Last edited by Scottdau; 07-28-2007, 05:46 PM.

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                          • Brandon13
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 8915

                            #43
                            Re: Bonds 1 away

                            Originally posted by Scottd
                            The truth is he is no role model. Most players aren't either. You have your few, but that is it. Most of these guys have had their asses kiss their whole life, so they don't know how to act. Most pro players that I have met come off pretty errogant. It is just how it is.
                            True. I know people that have met Chipper Jones and they say he comes off as arrogant and cocky. I guess it's kind of hard not to be arrogant when you've had people telling you how good you are your whole life.

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                            • Scottdau
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 32580

                              #44
                              Re: Bonds 1 away

                              Originally posted by remix
                              I think it's become pretty sad when Bonds is only remembered for his HR's. He was one of the most versatile players out there, had one of the quickest bats, great defense and a heck of a lot of speed. Of course that's not the case these past few years, but that's what I'll remember him by. Even before all the steroid allegations, Bonds always kept to himself, not really caring what the media thought; this probably ended up hurting him more than he thought when the allegations started to swirl.

                              Regardless of the 95% of people that hate the guy for what he's supposedly done, the same people go out to watch the guy. Most boo because that's the thing to do, he's supposedly the biggest cheat in the world and he can do no right. The thing I don't understand is how some of you guys talk about Hank Aaron as if you were there to see him live. I know for sure that I wasn't around to see him and I don't doubt he was probably one of the greatest, but not many here were around to actually comprehend how great he was.

                              Mays was better than Hank! Hank was great no doubt. I never met him before, but I have met Mays personally and he is a conceited man. Yeah he did buy the jail a new sound system. Maybe Hank is different.

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                              • mjb2124
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 13649

                                #45
                                Re: Bonds 1 away

                                Originally posted by remix
                                The thing I don't understand is how some of you guys talk about Hank Aaron as if you were there to see him live. I know for sure that I wasn't around to see him and I don't doubt he was probably one of the greatest, but not many here were around to actually comprehend how great he was.
                                Reading, talking to those that have seen him play and watching many videos and programs of the guy show a lot...especially what he was about and what he went through to get to where he is.

                                Roberto Clemente is my all-time favorite player and I never saw him play live. Doesn't mean I don't know how great he was or what the man was about or how he conducted himself.

                                I guess I'm not sure what your point is. People don't have to see a player to play to realize said players greatness.

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