Jose Canseco know things...

[Blzer]

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I wouldn't consider that a bad swing since he's hitting an opposite-field home run off Papelbon to win the game.

No lower-body, which means all arms. I'm not saying that he didn't produce a good hit, but an all-arms swing is not a good fundamental swing, especially if you wanted to teach a scrawny batter to drive the ball. Weight distribution and hip torque are two very prominent features in a good swing.

I don't need to be hassled for only reiterating what Gwynn would say to you guys as well.

[ehh]

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p.s. Arod didn't bench 315lbs when he was 15 either. That is silly.

Why not? Kids in my HS were benching 315 back in the day. Sometimes people forget that baseball players can be physical freaks as well.

Hell, look at the info on incoming freshman at DI football programs. Plenty of them rep with 315. I know there's a big difference between being 15 and 18, but still - there's no way it's out of the question. Wasn't A-Rod a heckuva quarterback in HS?

[NYJets]

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Well I am going by weight. As a rookie they had him listed at 195. His he still 195?

Of course A-Rod is bigger than his rookie year, but he doesn't look like a different person like Bonds does.

[ehh]

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No lower-body, which means all arms. I'm not saying that he didn't produce a good hit, but an all-arms swing is not a good fundamental swing, especially if you wanted to teach a scrawny batter to drive the ball. Weight distribution and hip torque are two very prominent features in a good swing.

I don't need to be hassled for only reiterating what Gwynn would say to you guys as well.

I'm not hasseling you, I just think that particular swing from A-Rod is a poor example to apply what Gwynn is saying. How are you going to get your lower-body into a 97mph fastball that's low-n-away on the black? You can find a picture like that of any player in baseball after hitting a ball the other way and dub it as a poor swing.

Every batter does it, the "reach out and poke it the other way" swing, cept A-Rod so friggen strong his "poke" goes 400+ feet.

[Blzer]

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Of course A-Rod is bigger than his rookie year, but he doesn't look like a different person like Bonds does.

Your mommy and daddy made you just as well as they made your brother or sister. Are you guys expected to look the same just because you were produced by the same medicine?

If this is anything rational to you guys, African-Americans tend to react more to medications than Caucasians. I don't know about Dominicans, though.

[NYJets]

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No lower-body, which means all arms. I'm not saying that he didn't produce a good hit, but an all-arms swing is not a good fundamental swing, especially if you wanted to teach a scrawny batter to drive the ball. Weight distribution and hip torque are two very prominent features in a good swing.

I don't need to be hassled for only reiterating what Gwynn would say to you guys as well.

Maybe you can go outside and make another video to demonstrate to us what a proper swing should look like and we can find a way to send it to A-Rod and save his career.

After all, you did try out for a college baseball team, so you are the god of hitting.

[Blzer]

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Maybe you can go outside and make another video to demonstrate to us what a proper swing should look like and we can find a way to send it to A-Rod and save his career.

After all, you did try out for a college baseball team, so you are the god of hitting.

Not all hitters are good coaches, and not all coaches are good hitters. I don't suppose that today's actors, news anchors, beautiful people, porn stars, movie critics, and even athletes are the best of the bunch as well. Credibility should not be defined by popularity. I could be the second smartest hitter known to man, but nobody would know it. Hell, you could be first. But I'm not just a "member on a message board."

On that same token, Canseco's name is the only reason he is banking from his books. If I were to write this, I probably wouldn't profit. That's how our society works, and those are the rules that you and everybody else like to follow.

And that video was for the damn baseball game, where we have fourth-rate developers making players perform physically impossible feet-gliding animations and ball forces.

[Rainey]

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Maybe you can go outside and make another video to demonstrate to us what a proper swing should look like and we can find a way to send it to A-Rod and save his career.

After all, you did try out for a college baseball team, so you are the god of hitting.

Getting kinda personal? I guess you are upset.

[Blzer]

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I'm not hasseling you, I just think that particular swing from A-Rod is a poor example to apply what Gwynn is saying. How are you going to get your lower-body into a 97mph fastball that's low-n-away on the black? You can find a picture like that of any player in baseball after hitting a ball the other way and dub it as a poor swing.

Every batter does it, the "reach out and poke it the other way" swing, cept A-Rod so friggen strong his "poke" goes 400+ feet.

On the contrary...

Or do you prefer "au contraire?"

Or let's stick to simple English and just say "This is how."

And although this one isn't low, it still is 6 inches off of the plate and he is still able to use hips with his weight back:




And although none of these pitches are 97 MPH, just remember that the pitcher supplies the power (not a baseball smarts thing, but a physics smarts thing); meaning Papelbon helped Rodriguez's ball get out, and these pitchers aren't helping Bonds. Oh, it is very possible to use your legs on an outside pitch. Alex used "steroid-arms".

[Brandon13]

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Blzer, I don't think anyone would dispute the fact that Bonds has one of, if not the best swing in all of baseball. It's just the fact that you said steroids couldn't have helped Bonds hit 73 home runs in a season in which he was 36-37 years old or they couldn't have help him hit 754+ in his career. I'm sure Bonds' swing is a major reason as to why he's been so great later in his career. But come on, to say steroids haven't helped him? I just can't believe that you actually believe that.

[Blzer]

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Blzer, I don't think anyone would dispute the fact that Bonds has one of, if not the best swing in all of baseball. It's just the fact that you said steroids couldn't have helped Bonds hit 73 home runs in a season in which he was 36-37 years old or they couldn't have help him hit 754+ in his career. I'm sure Bonds' swing is a major reason as to why he's been so great later in his career. But come on, to say steroids haven't helped him? I just can't believe that you actually believe that.

Well, one thing for sure is that I am probably the only person in the world that can still be convinced otherwise that he didn't even ever inject himself, though we do know of The Cream and The Clear.

The other thing is that Bonds' 73 home run season only happened once, even before the 2003 Cream/Clear accusations. Statistically, his 2003 season was his worst of 2001 - 2004 (even though it was still a great year heh). I don't see how Rodriguez hitting 14 home runs in April isn't a potential indication of steroids. What if he ends up breaking the record? No accusations?

When Bonds doesn't do well, it's because he is inconsistent with his swing/approach... it's not because he forgot to take his dose in the morning. He hit 46 home runs 14 years and 50 pounds ago, and in 2002 he hit just as many. Obviously, if he were still on steroids, he should have hit 70 home runs again, yes?

Sometimes players just have great spurts. Rollins isn't on steroids, and he's having somewhat of a breakout home run year. Beltre? Hell, even Mike Cameron hit four home runs in one game and flew out to the warning track his last at bat. All home runs are independent, and every player has the potential to hit as many home runs as at bats, even Jason Tyner. It's not like Joe Morgan's asinine comment when the A's scored so many runs in a game that they were "wasting runs for tomorrow's game." You don't have a limit to home runs, runs, or even hits. A home run can be 500 feet or 320 feet... it just needs to go over the fence, and Bonds happened to do that 73 times in 2001.

Steroids certainly didn't help him hit a baseball, especially after seeing a 40/40 home run/strikeout season with a .360 average. I think that, if steroids did indeed make him grow to irregular proportions, then it aided in his 2005 knee troubles, and probably grows him more tired by the day because of his now massive size. With that 2005 season he could have had another 35+ home runs, and he probably wouldn't be sitting as much as he is today with how big he is. I would still predict that he could have broken Aaron's record by the time that all is said and done with him without steroids. 73? All I can say is that he has/had just a good a chance as anybody, where everybody has a pretty randomly legitimate chance at doing so.

[Brandon13]

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So you're saying that if he did use steroids they actually hurt him more than helped him? Lol... I just can't go through this argument again.

[Scottdau]

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take off your man love blinders for Bonds.


p.s. Arod didn't bench 315lbs when he was 15 either. That is silly.

My friend did, but he took roids! Yes in 8th grade. He was big, but never grew and his brothers were all over 6'2'', he was the only one at 5'6''. Go figure.

[Scottdau]

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The Bonds apologists never cease to amaze me.

Give me a break!

[Blzer]

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So you're saying that if he did use steroids they actually hurt him more than helped him? Lol... I just can't go through this argument again.

In a nutshell, I suppose that is what I said. Because people are using size-comparison photos to prove he took steroids, I'm going to say that the pressure on his knee due to his new upper body size wasn't helping his health, and hasn't for the longest time now. If steroids were the case of his size, then this is why he only played 14 games in 2005, and this is why he can only play 130 some games a season now.