Mitchell's report to reveal many names

[ComfortablyLomb]

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what i dont get is.... if majority of peole are taking something... how is it cheating?.. at that point isnt the playing field even?

thats a legit question.

which poses another question...

why do it in the first place?

You do it in the first place to catch up because others were trying to get ahead. If everyone is doing in then the playing field IS leveled to a degree. Also, this is still the fault of MLB for not having a solid testing program in place years ago. This witch hunt is stupid.

[Beantown]

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Are Pettitte and Clemen's HOF bids really that damaged?

If Rose isn't in for gambling, no player who has been proven to have used/been supplied steroids should not be allowed in, in my opinion.

[trobinson97]

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Are Pettitte and Clemen's HOF bids really that damaged?

If McGuire's and Bonds' are, then they have to be.

No Chipper Jones on that unofficial list, I hope it stays that way.

[elicoleman]

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what i dont get is.... if majority of peole are taking something... how is it cheating?.. at that point isnt the playing field even?

thats a legit question.

which poses another question...

why do it in the first place?

But not everyone is doing it. Until it's 100%, it's not a level playing field. Regardless, it doesn't make it right.

And I have no clue why you'd feel the need to do them. I guess some individuals may feel like they're at the decline of their career and want something to keep them going a little longer. Keep playing, keep making money.

[Double Eights]

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Are Pettitte and Clemen's HOF bids really that damaged?

I hope not. Andy Pettitte is my favorite Major League Baseball player of all time.

[Sully]

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Are Pettitte and Clemen's HOF bids really that damaged?

I think so. McGwire was a fringe HOFer to begin with, and he only received about 24% of the vote in his first year of eligibility. It'll be interesting to see the voting when Pettitte and Clemens become eligible.

[boomhauertjs]

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MLB did this to themselves. They turned a blind eye to roids after the strike because they wanted the '98 home run chase to make everyone forget about the strike. Now they're paying the piper...

MLB has always been slow to put in drug testing, mainly because they let the union push them around. Steve Howe was suspended for drugs 7 freaking times, yet they kept allowing him back into baseball. Think the NBA or NFL would do that?

[elicoleman]

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Are Pettitte and Clemen's HOF bids really that damaged?

I'd say yes. Like they've mentioned a few times, McGwire got less than 25% of votes. I think while Clemens will get more, it won't be enough to get him into the HOF.

[rubisco43]

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Are Pettitte and Clemen's HOF bids really that damaged?

Andy was a HOFer? 200 wins with a 3.83 ERA? Man, HOF standards must be dookie now.

[Lintyfresh85]

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Somewhere Fred McGriff and Tom Emanski smile.



Screw roids... I got these sweet drills! And an even cooler hat!!!

[Porschebenz2001]

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If Rose isn't in for gambling, no player who has been proven to have used/been supplied steroids should not be allowed in, in my opinion.

Pettitte wasn't going to get in anyway, but Clemens is arguably the best pitcher of all time. With that being said, I agree with you. As much as I love Pettitte he doesn't belong. It'll be interesting to see what other HOF's are there.

[TJdaSportsGuy]

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If McGuire's and Bonds' are, then they have to be.

No Chipper Jones on that unofficial list, I hope it stays that way.

The following is a Public Service Announcement, brought to you by the forum readers of OperationSports.com:

For God's sake, it's Mark McGwire, not Mark McGuire.

This has been a Public Service Announcement.

[nyisles16]

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man, taking a look at the unconfirmed list... if this happens to be even close, this whole thing is more sad and a joke.. for every star player, there must be like another 15-20 fringe or never-has or never-were players on that list..

Paxton Crawford??? Damian Moss??

[pk500]

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This report will have zero impact on the game other than affecting future Hall of Fame balloting. The game and its fans will shrug it off within weeks.

By January, this report will be forgotten, and all people will care about is circling the date in February when pitchers and catchers report to spring training.

The entire Mitchell Report is just a Pontius Pilate-style hand washing of this inconvenient drug affair by Bud Selig, who turned a blind eye in the 90s and let the drug problem mushroom.

It's much ado about something, a something that means nothing to people in baseball and its fans.

Take care,
PK

[elicoleman]

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The following is a Public Service Announcement, brought to you by the forum readers of OperationSports.com:

For God's sake, it's Mark McGwire, not Mark McGuire.

This has been a Public Service Announcement.

Can you also point out that it's Clemens, not Clemons?