Mitchell's report to reveal many names

[MassNole]

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Would have been nice if he did it BEFORE he got caught, but I understand where you're comin' from.

I still want Clemens to step up, tell America again "I've been tarnished for life, I'm an innocent man", take a lie detector test, and blow Mitchell's report out of the water............................................. .......still waiting. That would effectively end this right there. It would destroy Mitchell's entire report.

Why take a lie detector test? There is a damned good reason those results aren't admissible in an open court.

[The C]

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Good move by Andy to admit it. This puts a ton of pressure on Clemens now as they both use the same trainer, so I'm not sure how much longer he can deny his use.

Their trainer is kind of a douche. Scratch that, he is a douche.

Despite his efforts to branch out, McNamee kept a low profile until October of 2001, when he was suddenly in the New York tabloids. According to police reports, an employee of a St. Petersburg, Fla., hotel where the Yankees were staying had noticed a man and a woman apparently having sex in the hotel pool, while another man looked on from a few feet away. All three were naked in the pool. One of the men, Charles Wonsowicz, the former St. John's pitcher who was now the Yankees' video technician, left immediately when confronted by the employee. The other, McNamee, continued to hold on to the woman until the hotel employee asked him to leave again, according to police documents.
"You mean now?" he said. McNamee got out of the pool, leaving behind the woman, who witnesses said appeared "out of it." She said to the hotel employee, "Help me," and then McNamee pulled her out of the pool and tried to put clothes back on her.

Employees called police, and an ambulance also arrived. It turned out the woman had ingested a near fatal dose of GHB, a powerful drug used by bodybuilders, teenage "ravers" and date rapists -- who have used it to incapacitate victims. A bottle of the GHB was found on the pool deck.

Police investigated the incident as a rape and questioned McNamee the next morning.
The report of Detective Don Crotty, who questioned McNamee, cites McNamee as lying several times during the questioning: about where he first met the woman, saying it was the hotel lobby rather than another bar, as other witnesses said; and about his whereabouts over the course of the night. McNamee didn't mention that he was with the woman with several other Yankees players in Chuck Knoblauch's room. He denied to police that he even knew Wonsowicz, his college teammate and fellow Yankees employee. He said Wonsowicz looked familiar, and he might be a "green fly," ballplayer slang for a hanger-on who looks for autographs.

For more than a month in 2001, McNamee was a suspect. However, no charges were filed. Early in the investigation, the woman lied to investigators about her reason for being at the Renaissance Vinoy hotel -- she was having an affair with another Yankees employee who was married, and didn't want to reveal that. When investigators realized this, they declined to pursue the investigation of McNamee. A few months later, the Yankees quietly let McNamee go. But Clemens and Pettitte kept using him as their personal trainer.

For the most part, he kept a low profile, though he did get into a legal squabble. In 2003, the Dontzin Law Firm, LLP, a New York City shop that represented him during the 2001 rape investigation, sued McNamee for $41,261.78 in unpaid legal bills. McNamee paid some of the money, getting the bill down to about $24,000, then stopped, claiming Dontzin's firm was not licensed in Florida and should not have represented him there in the rape investigation. In the course of the litigation, McNamee said in court papers that he never received certain bills because he was living at a different address since he'd become estranged from his wife. The case was settled in 2004, and McNamee was ordered to pay $11,000 to Dontzin. The firm did not respond to ESPN The Magazine's requests for an interview.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153874

Sounds like his credibility might be easy to question.

[Knight165]

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Their trainer is kind of a douche. Scratch that, he is a douche.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153874

Sounds like his credibility might be easy to question.

But his canceled checks are not.
I'm sure the guys a loser......but I'm through with the "benefit of the doubt" for the players.
Jesus Christ...is it so hard to just take what talent God(or whomever/whatever) gave you....hone it to the best of your natural ability and compete against others who do the same?
To get a "record" by using something that isn't part of you(steroids/HGH) would make that record very hollow to me.....
I don't know...maybe I'm out of touch and integrity should just be put by the wayside and cheating just allowed.....but I hope not...

M.K.
Knight165

[jim416]

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But his canceled checks are not.
I'm sure the guys a loser......but I'm through with the "benefit of the doubt" for the players.
Jesus Christ...is it so hard to just take what talent God(or whomever/whatever) gave you....hone it to the best of your natural ability and compete against others who do the same?
To get a "record" by using something that isn't part of you(steroids/HGH) would make that record very hollow to me.....
I don't know...maybe I'm out of touch and integrity should just be put by the wayside and cheating just allowed.....but I hope not...

M.K.
Knight165

Agreed. The guy who talked might be considered a "douche" bag, but I think a lot of players are simply not telling the truth. Douche bags?

It's a mess.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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Personally, I wonder if "I was using it to recover from surgery" will become the new "I didn't inhale" or "our interpretation of our videotaping procedure".

Alot of people forget the Grimsley thing when Clemens & Petitte's names came up.

Anyone see Fernando Vina's "confession" on SC today? He didn't sound credible @ all. He didn't know what the checks were for? They could have been tips? As if he tipped thousands of dollars for someone picking up their family from the airport. What a crock.

[Stu]

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3159406

Guess Mitchell wasn't wrong to include Brian Roberts name in the report. My theory is still that they had the results of failed drug tests on some of these guys but weren't able to include that in the report due to their agreement with MLB.

[rubisco43]

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well, at least we know what the standard excuse will be from here on out...

"i used hGH to recover from an injury"

andy, f.p., roberts, etc...

we're moving on up from the flat out denial.

[Quint75]

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well, at least we know what the standard excuse will be from here on out...

"i used hGH to recover from an injury"

andy, f.p., roberts, etc...

we're moving on up from the flat out denial.

Isn't is just sheer coincidence that so many guys that were named the report only used steroids or HGH once, and got caught the only time they did it? Talk about bad luck...
These guys sound just like my 16 year old son when I catch him doing something: "It was the first time I ever did it, dad, I swear!"

[djep]

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It certainly has replaced "tainted supplements" as the standard excuse, which was way more annoying. It was like Keith Richards blaming a poppy seed bagel for failing a drug test.

[Jistic]

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Isn't is just sheer coincidence that so many guys that were named the report only used steroids or HGH once, and got caught the only time they did it? Talk about bad luck...
These guys sound just like my 16 year old son when I catch him doing something: "It was the first time I ever did it, dad, I swear!"

Yep. Too funny. ALL of them but Cansceco say the same answer. They are pathetic.

[Quint75]

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Yep. Too funny. ALL of them but Cansceco say the same answer. They are pathetic.

They have no character whatsoever. They are just bald-faced liars. All of them.

[nyisles16]

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They have no character whatsoever. They are just bald-faced liars. All of them.

best was hearing Vina today on ESPN... basically tried to run around the questions being asked him..

[ckarlic]

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best was hearing Vina today on ESPN... basically tried to run around the questions being asked him..

Yeah I watched that and he was stumbling and fumbling around everything he was asked. Good thing Pettite was the first to say he only used HGH to get better. Now everyone is jumping on that excuse.

[Jistic]

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Good thing Pettite was the first to say he only used HGH to get better. Now everyone is jumping on that excuse.

Nobody believes him either. They all tried it once. Sheffield, Bonds, didn't Giambi say that too? Everyone just tried it once....wow..

[jim416]

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Stumblin', fumblin', mumblin', tumblin'...........he..........could...........go. ...........
all..............the............way.

Fernando, that was AWFUL!