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  • nyqua
    Pro
    • Nov 2004
    • 750

    #1

    Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3219098

    Excellent defensively. LOL offensively.
  • daflyboys
    Banned
    • May 2003
    • 18238

    #2
    Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

    Originally posted by nyqua
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3219098

    Excellent defensively. LOL offensively.
    Won't need the LOL offense.

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    • BatsareBugs
      LVP
      • Feb 2003
      • 12553

      #3
      Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

      Is he going to be their regular third basemen?

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      • Skerik
        Living in this tube
        • Mar 2004
        • 5215

        #4
        Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

        I'm digging the signing. 3B was a black hole for us last season, with Helms being terrible all around, Nunez fielding well but being unable to hit a lick, and Dobbs being an average fielder who couldn't hit lefty pitching. Feliz doesn't hit for average and he doesn't walk, but he'll likely hit 7th and I don't want the #7 hitter walking anyway.

        What he does do is defend extremely well at 3B, while putting the ball in play (70 K in 557 AB last season) with some pop (20 HR). He also hit .310 with RISP last season, another area where we've struggled in recent seasons. Poor hitting with RISP and too many K's have plagued our lineup for the last few seasons, so a guy like Feliz is a welcome addition.

        Figure Dobbs will hit against tough RHP and I like the move. I don't think Pedro Feliz is the second coming or anything, but 3B was such a mess last season that almost any move represents an upgrade and this is better than I was anticipating.
        Helen: Everyone's special, Dash.
        Dash: [muttering] Which is another way of saying no one is.

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        • GSW
          Simnation
          • Feb 2003
          • 8041

          #5
          Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

          there is a god.

          just sucks aurilla will probably be playing third now... that stinks.

          but atleast richie wont swing at everything up and in.
          #Simnation

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          • Havok410
            MVP
            • Jul 2004
            • 1441

            #6
            Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

            Originally posted by Skerik
            I'm digging the signing. 3B was a black hole for us last season, with Helms being terrible all around, Nunez fielding well but being unable to hit a lick, and Dobbs being an average fielder who couldn't hit lefty pitching. Feliz doesn't hit for average and he doesn't walk, but he'll likely hit 7th and I don't want the #7 hitter walking anyway.
            He has a .288 career OBP! He's gotta be right at the bottom of the league in OBP. His .433 SLG isn't good enough to make up for his incredibly low OBP. Basically, he's one of the worst offensive players in the league. He gives you solid defense but it's not good enough to make up for his offense.

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            • Skerik
              Living in this tube
              • Mar 2004
              • 5215

              #7
              Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

              Originally posted by Havok410
              He has a .288 career OBP! He's gotta be right at the bottom of the league in OBP. His .433 SLG isn't good enough to make up for his incredibly low OBP. Basically, he's one of the worst offensive players in the league. He gives you solid defense but it's not good enough to make up for his offense.
              We won a division last year while giving 500+ ABs to Abraham Nunez and Wes Helms, both of whom make Pedro Feliz look like Barry Bonds at the plate. The rest of the lineup is strong enough to tolerate an OBP around .300 out of a #7 hitter if he's going to hit 20 HRs.

              Our lineup was good enough to win with Nunez at 3B last season who did absolutely nothing at the plate while fielding a very good 3B. If Feliz was going to hit higher than 7th I'd have a problem, but for what we need him to do, I like the signing.
              Helen: Everyone's special, Dash.
              Dash: [muttering] Which is another way of saying no one is.

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              • P2K
                Banned
                • Aug 2006
                • 8845

                #8
                Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

                There's someone that is absolutely itching to come in here and hate.

                He's lurking I bet.

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                • Alliball
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 2368

                  #9
                  Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

                  Are the Giants going to be throwing a AAA team out there next year?

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                  • Lintyfresh85
                    Where have I been?
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 17492

                    #10
                    Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

                    Why the Phillies gave Feliz two years is beyond me. Although, 20 homers should be a given in Citizens this year.
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                    Hell, I shot my grandmother, cuz she was old.

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                    • Skerik
                      Living in this tube
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 5215

                      #11
                      Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

                      Originally posted by P2K
                      There's someone that is absolutely itching to come in here and hate.

                      He's lurking I bet.


                      He's probably loading up on stats, so he can come in blazing with both barrels.
                      Helen: Everyone's special, Dash.
                      Dash: [muttering] Which is another way of saying no one is.

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                      • rsox
                        All Star
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 6309

                        #12
                        Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

                        Originally posted by GSW
                        there is a god.

                        just sucks aurilla will probably be playing third now... that stinks.

                        but atleast richie wont swing at everything up and in.
                        The Giants have been said to be interested in Joe Crede and Morgan Ensberg to replace Feliz at 3rd. They would like to keep Aurilia as a platoon partner with Dan Ortmeier at 1B.

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                        • JBH3
                          Marvel's Finest
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 13506

                          #13
                          Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

                          Originally posted by P2K
                          There's someone that is absolutely itching to come in here and hate.

                          He's lurking I bet.
                          Who could that be...?

                          I'm gonna start a new thread...Feliz for MVP...lets see how that goes. :wink:

                          I think this is a good pickup. Feliz will have a lot more protection in our order than he did in SF, and the bank can make anyone a good hitter...Even 2007 MVP Jimmy Rollins...:wink:

                          The Phillies have a solid infield now...

                          Can we venture to say the best in the NL...MLB possibly...?
                          Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                          All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                          • Sandman42
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 15186

                            #14
                            Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

                            Originally posted by JBH3
                            The Phillies have a solid infield now...

                            Can we venture to say the best in the NL...MLB possibly...?

                            LOL. I doubt adding Feliz over a Dobbs/Nunez platoon improves the infield by that much. They were great before-hand, but adding Feliz isn't much improvement (if any) over a Dobbs/Nunez platoon.
                            Last edited by Sandman42; 01-28-2008, 11:07 PM.
                            Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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                            • daflyboys
                              Banned
                              • May 2003
                              • 18238

                              #15
                              Re: Pedro Feliz signs with the Phillies

                              Originally posted by JBH3
                              Who could that be...?

                              I'm gonna start a new thread...Feliz for MVP...lets see how that goes. :wink:

                              I think this is a good pickup. Feliz will have a lot more protection in our order than he did in SF, and the bank can make anyone a good hitter...Even 2007 MVP Jimmy Rollins...:wink:

                              The Phillies have a solid infield now...

                              Can we venture to say the best in the NL...MLB possibly...?
                              Howard would be the weak glove/throw. He's gotta get over that hesitation to throw to 2nd.

                              Guys punking his offense here is laughable. How many great hitting FA 3rd basemen do you think are out there?

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