Most promising young pitcher?

[sportsdude]

Re: Most promising young pitcher?

Another good example of a small pitcher that does well. He's in his 7th major league season and he's thrown a TON of innings. I have a feeling he's bound for the DL soon. I hope he proves me wrong; he's one of the more fun pitchers to watch out there.

1,413 total innings for his career in the majors, five out of his seven seasons he's pitched more than 200 innings. I feel like if he was going to have major issues with his body that he would've already experienced them.

I think I remember reading somewhere where his delivery is perfectly suited to deliver the least amount of stress for the velocity he generates on his pitches.

[rsox]

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Wow, yeah, good call.

Kazmir
Garza
McGee
Davis
Price

Not to mention they have Jeff Niemann who's highly touted as well. Really not fair.

They also have James Shields who they are very high on.

If the Rays ever got out of the AL East they would probably be serious contenders.

[spyder23]

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I wouldn't care if the guy never won another game after he was 30 if he could give me 6 or 7 years that Pedro had. Pedro had the most dominant 5 year run of anyone in baseball history in the late 90's.

I'm pretty sure most of he pitchers coming up would be happy to have half the career that Pedro had.

Easy there charro. I know most people on here dont really KNOW their baseball history(even though they probably claim to), so you might wanna be a little more careful when saying this as "fact". Because you clearly are way off base.

Pedro was phenomenal, but come on. Its not the best five year span ever.
#1. See Sandy Koufax: 1962-1966

#2 And better yet...see Walter Johnson:ANY SEASON(go ahead, pick any 5) from 1910-1919. Seriously, go look it up. His 1913 season alone is the best season ever for a pitcher. Pedro was great, but no one ever dominated like Johnson and Koufax.

People in this day and age think baseball started in 1987. Too many people think modern day anything is the "best ever", no matter the sport.

[OSUFan_88]

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If healthy, Adam Miller could be a future stud...

[Kearnzo]

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Easy there charro. I know most people on here dont really KNOW their baseball history(even though they probably claim to), so you might wanna be a little more careful when saying this as "fact". Because you clearly are way off base.

Pedro was phenomenal, but come on. Its not the best five year span ever.
#1. See Sandy Koufax: 1962-1966

#2 And better yet...see Walter Johnson:ANY SEASON(go ahead, pick any 5) from 1910-1919. Seriously, go look it up. His 1913 season alone is the best season ever for a pitcher. Pedro was great, but no one ever dominated like Johnson and Koufax.

People in this day and age think baseball started in 1987. Too many people think modern day anything is the "best ever", no matter the sport.

You do realize that this is a COMPLETELY different game of baseball being played now? One that is far more high scoring and loaded with power than before. What Pedro did in the late 90's in this day and age, with these power hitters, is equally, if not more impressive than what Koufax and Johnson did.

[Blzer]

Re: Most promising young pitcher?

Felix Hernandez, without question.

[spyder23]

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You do realize that this is a COMPLETELY different game of baseball being played now? One that is far more high scoring and loaded with power than before. What Pedro did in the late 90's in this day and age, with these power hitters, is equally, if not more impressive than what Koufax and Johnson did.

Of course I know that. But baseball is still baseball. Comapred to their leagues, they both dominated. You cant compare them to each other, but to their eras.

I never said Pedro wasnt great. He was phenomenal. But to just dismiss Johnson and Koufax by saying Pedro had the best 5 year reign in history is just ignorant.

If the Cy Young Award was available back then, Johnson would be in double digits, easily.

[spyder23]

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King Felix is my answer.

[JBH3]

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Matt Chico and Tyler Clippard of the Nat's could become solid 2 and 3 starters in the MLB for a while. Neither I think would be an ace, but solid 2 or 3 guys.

What about Jeremy Sowers? He still needs time to develop, and I think CLE rushed him to the bigs but he has nasty stuff.

Edgar Gonzales gave ARI some solid innings last year, and is developing...by the time he is 26/27 he will probably be the #3 starter pushing for the #2 in that rotation.

Gavin Floyd still has some upside, and Gio Gonzalez has untapped potential...I'm pissed the Phillies dealt him for Freddy F---ing Garcia.

Let's not forget about the Marlins who have all the young talent in the world. Anibal Sanchez...if he returns healthy is nasty, Andrew Miller is supposed to be a highly touted prospect, and Scott Olsen still has a lot of upside and time to develop.

Lastly I must mention Cole Hamels...He had his "break-out" season just last year. If he can keep his back problems in check than the 24 yr old lefty will be a staple of excellence for the next 8-10 years.

[SPTO]

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As a Blue Jay fan I will give you two names to watch out for in the next 5 years.

Dustin McGowan: The guy has some dominating stuff at times and was viewed as the next ace of the Jays for a while there. He's going to be a very solid starter IMO. I think he could have a pretty big year in '08.

Shaun Marcum: This guy has become THE ace of the future for this ballclub. He's very mature for his relative inexperience and has lights out stuff. As you all know he nearly threw a No-Hitter last year and had stretches where he was nearly unhittable in other games.

The Jays also have some fine arms in the bullpen with the best being Accardo but I do think Janssen will become a very good dual role pitcher. He has the potential to be a top 3 starter or a future closer.

[NYJets]

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King Felix.

But I think Hughes is going to be great, and I'm not sure why Joba Chamberlain hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.

[gamelover13]

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If healthy, Adam Miller could be a future stud...

Thats who i was gonna say. Hopefully the indians dont overuse him.

[Sandman42]

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King Felix.

But I think Hughes is going to be great, and I'm not sure why Joba Chamberlain hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.

I was trying not to be too much of a homer and mention Joba and Kennedy also so I just picked Hughes, who I think will end up having the best career out of the 3.

[OSUFan_88]

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What about Jeremy Sowers? He still needs time to develop, and I think CLE rushed him to the bigs but he has nasty stuff.

I can tell you, he has completely lost his control. By the time they sent him back down, he lost his confidence and his control, and his delivery was all screwed up...he's trying to come back and is in a battle for the 5th starter slot with Cliff Lee and Aaron Laffey. Right now, if I had to bet, I'd say Laffey is the front runner, then Sowers then Lee.

[ComfortablyLomb]

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Yeah, and Pedro hasn't broken down at all, right?

He was the best pitcher in baseball for 6-7 years, but now he's a shadow of his former self at only 35 years old.

35 isn't really young for a pitcher. He's started 29+ games in 10 seasons. Not exactly a beacon of health but he's racked up 3030 strikeouts, 209 wins, and a 2.80 ERA over 2673 innings and 380 starts. Lasorda was wrong and so are you... Petey will go down as one of the top couple starters in modern baseball history. And unlike Roger it looks like Pedro did it naturally (but who really knows).