Your Batting Order Formulas

[Korosuke]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

Thanks guys. Im mixing your formulas for the best I'll post a perfect way to line your guys up with this help. Just a little more help.

[fugazi]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

I want 3 guys that will hit above .280 in front of my best hitter...that either means my best hitter is at 4, or at 3 with the Pitcher batting 8th. (Not even thinking about a DH)

I think a team's 'best hitter'--by which we usually mean best combo of average AND power--should be considered for 4th, instead of 3rd...If a team has the luxury of having three above average contact guys to put in front of him, regardless of their power, I say do it...I want my best hitter up at the plate with 2 men on as often as possible.

Of the 3 contact guys, i would put the slowest one behind the fastest two.

For example, I think the Cubs could benefit from this lineup on the left...on the right is how I would line them up with Lee at 3rd.

Johnson ...........Theriot
Theriot .............Fukudome
Fukudome ..........Lee
Lee ..................Ramirez
Ramirez .............Soriano
Soriano .............Soto
Soto ................DeRosa
Zambrano ..........Zambrano
DeRosa ..............Johnson

I believe a lot of our 'formulas' or standards are pretty commonplace and admittedly rather well-proved through time, but I appreciate what patient contact hitters can do for a lineup, and I think making 4th the new 3rd might not be a bad idea for a team that has the personnel.

I don't think the Pitcher at 8th is a gimmick, either...I think it provides better separation between your Pitcher and your good (i.e.-1-4) hitters.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

Thanks guys. Im mixing your formulas for the best I'll post a perfect way to line your guys up with this help. Just a little more help.

Sorry mine isn't helpful, but you can see how the Padres have influenced my lineup formula.

Anyways, just to help out a bit more.

1. Usually the fastest guy on the team that can steal bases and wreck havoc on the basepaths while putting up an OBP of .350 or better.
2. A contact hitter, liken that of a Mark Loretta 2004. A guy that can hit at least .300. Slight power and/or speed is nice.
3. Your best hitter on the team, period.
4. Your best power hitter behind your best hitter.
5. Nearly similar to a number 2, except offers more power and less average.
6. A power hitter who is less disciplined.
7. Any young prospect, or if you have no prospects, any player at a position you haven't played yet.
8. Last remaining person, in the NL. Preferably has at least above average speed. AL = Best power hitter available.
9. NL = pitcher. AL = 2nd leadoff hitter.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

Research has shown it doesnt really matter at all as long as you dont do something stupid like bat your worst hitter first or put all the lefties in a row.

Whats important is who you have in the order, not where they are in it.

[SPTO]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

Whats important is who you have in the order, not where they are in it.

OK then why hasn't La Russa ever done something crazy like put Pujols to lead off a game then?

[dkgojackets]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

OK then why hasn't La Russa ever done something crazy like put Pujols to lead off a game then?

I can think of a lot of things worse than giving the best hitter in the league the most at bats.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

OK then why hasn't La Russa ever done something crazy like put Pujols to lead off a game then?

I would not be surprised if LaRussa ever does that. :wink:

[Korosuke]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

Bumpp

[Korosuke]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

bump

come on lets hope this doesnt end

[windseer90]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

1. Someone who makes contact and has decent speed
2. Good contact and decent power. Someone you can hit and run with.
3. Best hitter
4. 2nd best hitter to protect the best hitter
5. A good doubles hitter with good power
6-8. The rest of the guys in descending order of batting ability.
9. Pitcher/2nd lead-off if in AL

[dkgojackets]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

bump

come on lets hope this doesnt end

what else is there to it? Youre either a traditionalist who says contact/speed at the front, best hitter 3rd, power in the middle, the rest of the guys, then pitcher last or youve done some reading and know that order doesnt really matter.

[Blzer]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

Korosuke, just make sure you understand why I say the seventh hitter is the worst and not the eighth (at least for the National League). Think about it... you want to eliminate the possibility of your pitcher leading off the next inning. Even if your seventh hitter is the last out, now there's a chance for your eighth hitter to lead off with a hit, and low and behold, your pitcher is now up for a sacrifice opportunity.

Today, Jose Castillo of San Francisco was up with runners on first and third, one out. The worst hitter in the lineup. He grounds into a double play, stranding the runner on third. The pitcher had to lead off the next inning. I don't know why anybody would want their worst hitter batting eighth.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

I don't know why anybody would want their worst hitter batting eighth.

Because you want the better hitters to get more at-bats?

[ezekiel55]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

1-Soriano
2-Soriano
3-Soriano
4-Soriano
5-Soriano
6-Soriano
7-Soriano
8-Soriano
9-Zambrano/Micah Owings (just to mix things up)

J/K...but seriously Soriano has been on a tear I havent seen since Sosa hit 20 HR in one month in 98

[Blzer]

Re: Your Batting Order Formulas

Because you want the better hitters to get more at-bats?

Then let's have who we normally bat third, bat first.

It's all situational. Sometimes while the eighth hitter (in my book) is better than the seventh hitter, his importance to come up to the plate during a game isn't as important as other hitters. So, in the case of the eighth hitter being better, maybe he won't induce that double play that the seventh hitter would have. Now the lead-off hitter gets to start up that next inning, and everyone has more at bats that way.

Again, it's all situational.