Thanks guys. Im mixing your formulas for the best I'll post a perfect way to line your guys up with this help. Just a little more help.
Your Batting Order Formulas
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Re: Your Batting Order Formulas
I want 3 guys that will hit above .280 in front of my best hitter...that either means my best hitter is at 4, or at 3 with the Pitcher batting 8th. (Not even thinking about a DH)
I think a team's 'best hitter'--by which we usually mean best combo of average AND power--should be considered for 4th, instead of 3rd...If a team has the luxury of having three above average contact guys to put in front of him, regardless of their power, I say do it...I want my best hitter up at the plate with 2 men on as often as possible.
Of the 3 contact guys, i would put the slowest one behind the fastest two.
For example, I think the Cubs could benefit from this lineup on the left...on the right is how I would line them up with Lee at 3rd.
Johnson ...........Theriot
Theriot .............Fukudome
Fukudome ..........Lee
Lee ..................Ramirez
Ramirez .............Soriano
Soriano .............Soto
Soto ................DeRosa
Zambrano ..........Zambrano
DeRosa ..............Johnson
I believe a lot of our 'formulas' or standards are pretty commonplace and admittedly rather well-proved through time, but I appreciate what patient contact hitters can do for a lineup, and I think making 4th the new 3rd might not be a bad idea for a team that has the personnel.
I don't think the Pitcher at 8th is a gimmick, either...I think it provides better separation between your Pitcher and your good (i.e.-1-4) hitters.Last edited by fugazi; 05-13-2008, 11:22 AM.Australian Rules Football...just sayin'Comment
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Anyways, just to help out a bit more.
1. Usually the fastest guy on the team that can steal bases and wreck havoc on the basepaths while putting up an OBP of .350 or better.
2. A contact hitter, liken that of a Mark Loretta 2004. A guy that can hit at least .300. Slight power and/or speed is nice.
3. Your best hitter on the team, period.
4. Your best power hitter behind your best hitter.
5. Nearly similar to a number 2, except offers more power and less average.
6. A power hitter who is less disciplined.
7. Any young prospect, or if you have no prospects, any player at a position you haven't played yet.
8. Last remaining person, in the NL. Preferably has at least above average speed. AL = Best power hitter available.
9. NL = pitcher. AL = 2nd leadoff hitter.Last edited by BatsareBugs; 05-12-2008, 07:17 PM.Comment
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Research has shown it doesnt really matter at all as long as you dont do something stupid like bat your worst hitter first or put all the lefties in a row.
Whats important is who you have in the order, not where they are in it.Comment
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1. Someone who makes contact and has decent speed
2. Good contact and decent power. Someone you can hit and run with.
3. Best hitter
4. 2nd best hitter to protect the best hitter
5. A good doubles hitter with good power
6-8. The rest of the guys in descending order of batting ability.
9. Pitcher/2nd lead-off if in ALVillanova Class of 2012
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what else is there to it? Youre either a traditionalist who says contact/speed at the front, best hitter 3rd, power in the middle, the rest of the guys, then pitcher last or youve done some reading and know that order doesnt really matter.Comment
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Korosuke, just make sure you understand why I say the seventh hitter is the worst and not the eighth (at least for the National League). Think about it... you want to eliminate the possibility of your pitcher leading off the next inning. Even if your seventh hitter is the last out, now there's a chance for your eighth hitter to lead off with a hit, and low and behold, your pitcher is now up for a sacrifice opportunity.
Today, Jose Castillo of San Francisco was up with runners on first and third, one out. The worst hitter in the lineup. He grounds into a double play, stranding the runner on third. The pitcher had to lead off the next inning. I don't know why anybody would want their worst hitter batting eighth.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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1-Soriano
2-Soriano
3-Soriano
4-Soriano
5-Soriano
6-Soriano
7-Soriano
8-Soriano
9-Zambrano/Micah Owings (just to mix things up)
J/K...but seriously Soriano has been on a tear I havent seen since Sosa hit 20 HR in one month in 98Comment
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Then let's have who we normally bat third, bat first.
It's all situational. Sometimes while the eighth hitter (in my book) is better than the seventh hitter, his importance to come up to the plate during a game isn't as important as other hitters. So, in the case of the eighth hitter being better, maybe he won't induce that double play that the seventh hitter would have. Now the lead-off hitter gets to start up that next inning, and everyone has more at bats that way.
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