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  • jasongst
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    • Aug 2002
    • 123

    #16
    Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

    Well naturally none of us can get too specific on sales figures, whether they be how many we'd think would sell OR how much it would take to break even. But the point is, porting an existing game is far less risky than creating an original one.

    If you have 1.5GB of commentary there are plenty of things you can do. If it's 128k mp3 or something similar just knock it down to 64k, etc. The sound quality suffers but it's an easy process to do.

    But that's not really the point. Ports are a pain for the people who work on them, but they are a far cry from developing the game from the ground up. I would also guess the GC would be easier to port to than the PS2. With every aspect of the game already in place, why shouldn't this be considered a relatively low-cost project?

    I just think the GC was never given a fair shot right from the get go, and the result is the sports market it has now. This is partly because Nintendo doesn't try to market their own sports line (they actually started with a Basketball game, but failed to cover other sports). I think Sega's mistreatment of the GC has even created wariness among other companies--notice no MVP for Gamecube this year? What is up with that?

    If Sega had decided to discontinue, say, NBA2K3 on the GC that would be one thing, but to make a blanket statement saying there will be no more Gamecube sports? That statement really ticks me off because of the way they've treated Gamecube sports all along, like it was the frickin' Atari Jaguar or something. It makes me want to not buy Sega stuff.

    On a nearly unrelated note, anyone heard of a Baseball Advance sequel in the works? Me neither, what gives? I guess no one's buying portable baseball. This is a crappy video baseball year for me! Unless it turns out that I like High Heat for GC.

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    • jasongst
      Rookie
      • Aug 2002
      • 123

      #17
      Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

      Well naturally none of us can get too specific on sales figures, whether they be how many we'd think would sell OR how much it would take to break even. But the point is, porting an existing game is far less risky than creating an original one.

      If you have 1.5GB of commentary there are plenty of things you can do. If it's 128k mp3 or something similar just knock it down to 64k, etc. The sound quality suffers but it's an easy process to do.

      But that's not really the point. Ports are a pain for the people who work on them, but they are a far cry from developing the game from the ground up. I would also guess the GC would be easier to port to than the PS2. With every aspect of the game already in place, why shouldn't this be considered a relatively low-cost project?

      I just think the GC was never given a fair shot right from the get go, and the result is the sports market it has now. This is partly because Nintendo doesn't try to market their own sports line (they actually started with a Basketball game, but failed to cover other sports). I think Sega's mistreatment of the GC has even created wariness among other companies--notice no MVP for Gamecube this year? What is up with that?

      If Sega had decided to discontinue, say, NBA2K3 on the GC that would be one thing, but to make a blanket statement saying there will be no more Gamecube sports? That statement really ticks me off because of the way they've treated Gamecube sports all along, like it was the frickin' Atari Jaguar or something. It makes me want to not buy Sega stuff.

      On a nearly unrelated note, anyone heard of a Baseball Advance sequel in the works? Me neither, what gives? I guess no one's buying portable baseball. This is a crappy video baseball year for me! Unless it turns out that I like High Heat for GC.

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      • ODogg
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2003
        • 37953

        #18
        Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

        gamecube sucks......why bother
        Streaming PC & PS5 games, join me most nights after 6:00pm ET on TwitchTV https://www.twitch.tv/shaunh20
        or Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@shaunh741

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        • ODogg
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2003
          • 37953

          #19
          Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

          gamecube sucks......why bother
          Streaming PC & PS5 games, join me most nights after 6:00pm ET on TwitchTV https://www.twitch.tv/shaunh20
          or Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@shaunh741

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          • jasongst
            Rookie
            • Aug 2002
            • 123

            #20
            Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

            That was brilliant ODogg, I'm glad you represent someone else's system

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            • jasongst
              Rookie
              • Aug 2002
              • 123

              #21
              Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

              That was brilliant ODogg, I'm glad you represent someone else's system

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              • Erv
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 2105

                #22
                Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

                o dogg your an idiot

                and giving EA sports a platform is a dumb-*** move by sega, now look what EA and nintendo are doing with the gba/gc connectivity.

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                • Erv
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2105

                  #23
                  Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

                  o dogg your an idiot

                  and giving EA sports a platform is a dumb-*** move by sega, now look what EA and nintendo are doing with the gba/gc connectivity.

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                  • jasongst
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 123

                    #24
                    Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

                    Yeah I'm glad Nintendo and EA are trying to do SOMETHING, but where the heck is MVP Baseball? Doesn't sound like EA's too interested in the system when they aren't making deals.

                    Anyway, WSB2K3... yeah.

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                    • jasongst
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 123

                      #25
                      Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

                      Yeah I'm glad Nintendo and EA are trying to do SOMETHING, but where the heck is MVP Baseball? Doesn't sound like EA's too interested in the system when they aren't making deals.

                      Anyway, WSB2K3... yeah.

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                      • SportsMonger
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 863

                        #26
                        Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

                        NHL2K3 has not sold ................10,000 copies.......


                        You guys tell me why..........

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                        • SportsMonger
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 863

                          #27
                          Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

                          NHL2K3 has not sold ................10,000 copies.......


                          You guys tell me why..........

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                          • jasongst
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 123

                            #28
                            Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

                            Because when the critical moment came during the system launch of the Gamecube and the XBox, the XBox was given far more sports game from third parties, period. The Gamecube is only a non-sports system because third parties, like Sega, helped make it that way.

                            If Sega doesn't want to do any more GC games, fine, I don't blame them. If I put a half-assed effort into marketing my games to Gamecube owners, I wouldn't want to deal with the low sales either.

                            But I still make the case that if they are looking to make a shoe-string budget conversion of WSB or other Sega titles, there have got to be groups out that there will do it for cheap. I don't care if it's buggy, I don't care if it shows up a week after the World Series, I just want a chance to buy and play the game.

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                            • jasongst
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 123

                              #29
                              Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

                              Because when the critical moment came during the system launch of the Gamecube and the XBox, the XBox was given far more sports game from third parties, period. The Gamecube is only a non-sports system because third parties, like Sega, helped make it that way.

                              If Sega doesn't want to do any more GC games, fine, I don't blame them. If I put a half-assed effort into marketing my games to Gamecube owners, I wouldn't want to deal with the low sales either.

                              But I still make the case that if they are looking to make a shoe-string budget conversion of WSB or other Sega titles, there have got to be groups out that there will do it for cheap. I don't care if it's buggy, I don't care if it shows up a week after the World Series, I just want a chance to buy and play the game.

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                              • GameDude
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 388

                                #30
                                Re: Okay the game is out now, why not hire someone to do a GC port?

                                You sure would be mad if it was buggy. I can tell you that no matter what you do, it would cost more for the conversion itself than they would get back in sales. And if they put out an inferior product, that would just make it worse for them. If they put it out after the World Series, you would probably be the only one to buy it.

                                I'm know that Sega doesn't WANT to leave GC owners out in the cold, but I'm also sure that they've done the research and concluded that it couldn't be profitable at all for them. It sucks, but it's the nature of the business.

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