Arod and Manny bailed after they were taking out of the game

[dkgojackets]

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Giambi wasnt allowed to be in this HR Derby as he didnt make the all star team.
All this years all stars where allowed to be in the Derby.

Usually it's only all-stars, but Giambi was specially invited just because of the yankee stadium deal. And he STILL turned it down!

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/...ed_home_r.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/07/13/2008-07-13_jason_giambi_takes_a_pass_on_invitation_.html

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080713&content_id=3127720&vkey=allstar2008&fext=.jsp

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080713&content_id=3127720&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

Jackass! Scum! Fan *****! Terrorist!

[Kearnzo]

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Even as a Sox fan, I laugh at all the hate A-Rod gets. Most of it is usually for nothing at all, just to hate on him because he is the best player on the planet.

Like it was said before, the only reason people aren't mad about Manny leaving (and yes, he is one of my favorite players) is because he is generally a goofy b*stard. A-Rod on the other hand is a more clean cut 'good guy', so obviously it's the cool thing to do to hate on him.

[allBthere]

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Even as a Sox fan, I laugh at all the hate A-Rod gets. Most of it is usually for nothing at all, just to hate on him because he is the best player on the planet.

Like it was said before, the only reason people aren't mad about Manny leaving (and yes, he is one of my favorite players) is because he is generally a goofy b*stard. A-Rod on the other hand is a more clean cut 'good guy', so obviously it's the cool thing to do to hate on him.

people in toronto have reason to hate him. Also he's not likeable, I don't hate him because he's talented or people think he's handsome - He just rubs me the wrong way everytime i see an interview or anything. It's OK not to like everyone.

Also because it's a sport, I don't like some players simply because of the way they swing, or their batting stance. I like two hand finishes, and players that look like they throw violently etc.. so add to a-rod that i don't like his play-style, and then his little me-first attitude, and his face that looks like it needs a constant slapping - and yeah I hate him. So what? that days off crap is such a pant load also.

[Trevytrev11]

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Usually it's only all-stars, but Giambi was specially invited just because of the yankee stadium deal. And he STILL turned it down!ews_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

Jackass! Scum! Fan *****! Terrorist!

Slightly different in the fact that maybe he didn't want to take the position away from someone on the team who actually deserves it since HR Derby candidates are usually chosen from players named to the All Star Team/ (The exception is when Hee Sop Choi participated the year they had representives from different countries). This is speculation, so who know's what his motive was.

But yeah, kind of a dick move by Giambi for declining as well. Someone from the Yankee's should have participated.

[NYJets]

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Slightly different in the fact that maybe he didn't want to take the position away from someone on the team who actually deserves it since HR Derby candidates are usually chosen from players named to the All Star Team/ (The exception is when Hee Sop Choi participated the year they had representives from different countries). This is speculation, so who know's what his motive was.

We do know what his motive is, he said he didn't want to come for just one day, he preferred to spend the break in Las Vegas.

[SPTO]

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Usually it's only all-stars, but Giambi was specially invited just because of the yankee stadium deal. And he STILL turned it down!

Jackass! Scum! Fan *****! Terrorist!

I've seen guys who weren't on the All-Star team participating in the HR Derby but you're right it's mostly the All Stars. If I were Giambi i'd have been honored to be picked to participate in any way, shape or form at the final All Star Weekend at the Stadium.

[dkgojackets]

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Slightly different in the fact that maybe he didn't want to take the position away from someone on the team who actually deserves it since HR Derby candidates are usually chosen from players named to the All Star Team/ (The exception is when Hee Sop Choi participated the year they had representives from different countries). This is speculation, so who know's what his motive was.

But yeah, kind of a dick move by Giambi for declining as well. Someone from the Yankee's should have participated.

Im not really sure how its different at all, its obvious that a lot of players really dont want to be in the HR derby (especially if they've been in it several times before).

I dont think Giambi should get off any less than A-Rod or any player who declines a Derby invitation. Actually I don't think it should be held against any of them at all.

Of course, if A-Rod accepted the invitations and participated every year then he would get slammed for hogging a spot and not letting any new blood into the competition.

[Trevytrev11]

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We do know what his motive is, he said he didn't want to come for just one day, he preferred to spend the break in Las Vegas.

Well then it proves my other, earlier statement. Be honest and people will be more forgiving. Giambi says he doesn't want to play so he can take his full 3 day break and people accept that. A-Rod, instead of saying the same thing, says it butchers his swing, which stats prove is not the case, and gets hammered more for making a lame excuse then for ducking out in the first place.

Look at steroid users. If you just admit you did it, people are very forgiving.

[Trevytrev11]

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Of course, if A-Rod accepted the invitations and participated every year then he would get slammed for hogging a spot and not letting any new blood into the competition.

I've never heard anyone complain that a deserving competitor is participating in it too often.

In fact, it's always the other way around as far as I see it. People want to see the HR champs. They want to see the McGwires, Sosa's, Griffeys, A-Rod's and Bonds. People want to see 475' blasts by HR icons, not 330'ers by guys who barely hit 30 HR's a year. Every year people would have loved to see these guys participate.

It's the same thing with the slam dunk contests. People want to see the best, not just those who are willing to participate in place of the real stars, who decide to sit out.

All I'm saying is that it was a bit of a hit to the fans that the home town crowd didn't get to see their home town HR hitter(s) participate in the last derby in a ballpark made famous by maybe the greatest HR hitter ever. It was just a bad year to take off from that persepective. Probably wouldn't have been a big deal in prior years (in fact I'm sure they both have turned them down in the past), but being in NY, it has a bit more of an impact.

[dkgojackets]

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No, if it's A-Rod then people will complain.

[NYJets]

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Well then it proves my other, earlier statement. Be honest and people will be more forgiving. Giambi says he doesn't want to play so he can take his full 3 day break and people accept that. A-Rod, instead of saying the same thing, says it butchers his swing, which stats prove is not the case, and gets hammered more for making a lame excuse then for ducking out in the first place.

Look at steroid users. If you just admit you did it, people are very forgiving.

The thing is, I haven't heard any Yankee fans complain that A-Rod wasn't in it.

It's more the media looking for a story, because the people they say A-Rod is screwing over don't seem that pissed about it.

[CMH]

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Yea, true. I didn't miss Alex in the derby. I'm actually happy he didn't participate. The Derby is for the young guns.

[djep]

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Yea, true. I didn't miss Alex in the derby. I'm actually happy he didn't participate. The Derby is for the young guns.

I'm also glad he didn't participate. It's much cooler to see guys who don't hit at the Stadium too often. I can see Arod hit anytime I want in BP. The Josh Hamilton show comes around but twice a year or so.

[dkgojackets]

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I honestly cannot see how you Yankee fans don't feel terribly agrieved right now. It was such a travesty! ESPN and non-Yankee fans said he's screwing you over, you just don't know it.

[CMH]

Re: Arod and Manny bailed after they were taking out of the game

I honestly cannot see how you Yankee fans don't feel terribly agrieved right now. It was such a travesty! ESPN and non-Yankee fans said he's screwing you over, you just don't know it.