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  • JayBee74
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 22989

    #31
    Re: haha

    That would help.

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    • Blaise
      L*st M*n R*nn*ng
      • Jul 2002
      • 1457

      #32
      Re: haha

      I pose a question - When you create a player, how does the game determine where his H/C zones are?

      Also - doesnt the pitching meter get faster according to the type of pitch your going to throw?? I thought it did, but that could just be my imagination.
      Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici

      "Do you know how to catch a ball with no eyes, and stubby hands?.......You catch it with your heart"

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      • Blaise
        L*st M*n R*nn*ng
        • Jul 2002
        • 1457

        #33
        Re: haha

        I pose a question - When you create a player, how does the game determine where his H/C zones are?

        Also - doesnt the pitching meter get faster according to the type of pitch your going to throw?? I thought it did, but that could just be my imagination.
        Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici

        "Do you know how to catch a ball with no eyes, and stubby hands?.......You catch it with your heart"

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        • Hoos
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 3998

          #34
          Re: haha

          Hey Blaise, I think I can help you on the pitch meter question. From what I've seen so far, it seems as though the meter get's faster if you choose a particular pitch that the pitcher is not effective with. It may be his 3rd or 4th effective pitch. Also, the green area seems to be smaller as well. That's just my take on it
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          • Hoos
            MVP
            • Mar 2003
            • 3998

            #35
            Re: haha

            Hey Blaise, I think I can help you on the pitch meter question. From what I've seen so far, it seems as though the meter get's faster if you choose a particular pitch that the pitcher is not effective with. It may be his 3rd or 4th effective pitch. Also, the green area seems to be smaller as well. That's just my take on it
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            PSN: hoos4974

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            • Blaise
              L*st M*n R*nn*ng
              • Jul 2002
              • 1457

              #36
              Re: haha

              thats what i noticed, but since im at work, I couldnt confirm it.

              also, hoosier - did you send that PM like I asked?? Id appreciate it if you dont mind. thanks

              If you dont konw what im talking about, check you inbox
              Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici

              "Do you know how to catch a ball with no eyes, and stubby hands?.......You catch it with your heart"

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              • Blaise
                L*st M*n R*nn*ng
                • Jul 2002
                • 1457

                #37
                Re: haha

                thats what i noticed, but since im at work, I couldnt confirm it.

                also, hoosier - did you send that PM like I asked?? Id appreciate it if you dont mind. thanks

                If you dont konw what im talking about, check you inbox
                Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici

                "Do you know how to catch a ball with no eyes, and stubby hands?.......You catch it with your heart"

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                • **DONOTDELETE**
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Oct 2025
                  • 19598

                  #38
                  Re: haha

                  hey, i just noticed the title says "logarithms" don't you mean "algorithms"?

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                  • **DONOTDELETE**
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Oct 2025
                    • 19598

                    #39
                    Re: haha

                    hey, i just noticed the title says "logarithms" don't you mean "algorithms"?

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                    • ClintWestwood
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 30

                      #40
                      Re: haha

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                      hey, i just noticed the title says "logarithms" don't you mean "algorithms"?

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                      haha. that'd be the one. like i said above, i knew i was using the wrong terminology.

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                      • ClintWestwood
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 30

                        #41
                        Re: haha

                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        hey, i just noticed the title says "logarithms" don't you mean "algorithms"?

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        haha. that'd be the one. like i said above, i knew i was using the wrong terminology.

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                        • sgBoston
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 80

                          #42
                          Re: Addendum:

                          lol.

                          Jaybee - I have to agree with you that the idea of hitting zones SUCK. Just a terrible, terrible idea. Learn them by experiencing different hitters. At least have the option to hide them! I hope this hot/coldzone bull**** doesn't affect my enjoyment of the game too much.....

                          BUT why the hell would I say, pitch to B. Bonds hot zones? Very dumb to have these zones ..

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                          • sgBoston
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 80

                            #43
                            Re: Addendum:

                            lol.

                            Jaybee - I have to agree with you that the idea of hitting zones SUCK. Just a terrible, terrible idea. Learn them by experiencing different hitters. At least have the option to hide them! I hope this hot/coldzone bull**** doesn't affect my enjoyment of the game too much.....

                            BUT why the hell would I say, pitch to B. Bonds hot zones? Very dumb to have these zones ..

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                            • Blaise
                              L*st M*n R*nn*ng
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1457

                              #44
                              Re: Addendum:

                              Jay makes a very good point. Pitchers/Catchers go over their "gameplan" before games to try to see what advantages they can use, and what type of mistakes they want to avoid.

                              On another note, as far as the algorithms are concerned, you have to realize that baseball is one of the only sports where you can have sucess 3 out of 10 time and be considered great, soccer/hockey are the only other 2 I can think of right now.

                              That in mind, take Piazza as an example. Hes a career .320 hitter (roughly), and for discussion sake, lets say hes .345 vs lefties. In his cold zones vs lefties, he probably hits .300. In his hot zones, he may hit .365 and in his neutral zones, it could be .320. Just because its a "cold zone" doesnt mean that he cant still be an above avg hitter in them. Same situation, different hitter. Lets take Rey Ordonez, a career .250 hitter. Again, for discussion sake we'll say he .270 vs lefties. His cold zones may be .230 while his neutral may be .260, and his hot may be .300.

                              I would hope that the the Zones are relative to each hitter. And I do agree that players can, and will get hits in their cold zones if you keep pitching there. And like wise, you can get players out on hot zone hits, but this is baseball, where 3 out of 10 makes you great.
                              Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici

                              "Do you know how to catch a ball with no eyes, and stubby hands?.......You catch it with your heart"

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                              • Blaise
                                L*st M*n R*nn*ng
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 1457

                                #45
                                Re: Addendum:

                                Jay makes a very good point. Pitchers/Catchers go over their "gameplan" before games to try to see what advantages they can use, and what type of mistakes they want to avoid.

                                On another note, as far as the algorithms are concerned, you have to realize that baseball is one of the only sports where you can have sucess 3 out of 10 time and be considered great, soccer/hockey are the only other 2 I can think of right now.

                                That in mind, take Piazza as an example. Hes a career .320 hitter (roughly), and for discussion sake, lets say hes .345 vs lefties. In his cold zones vs lefties, he probably hits .300. In his hot zones, he may hit .365 and in his neutral zones, it could be .320. Just because its a "cold zone" doesnt mean that he cant still be an above avg hitter in them. Same situation, different hitter. Lets take Rey Ordonez, a career .250 hitter. Again, for discussion sake we'll say he .270 vs lefties. His cold zones may be .230 while his neutral may be .260, and his hot may be .300.

                                I would hope that the the Zones are relative to each hitter. And I do agree that players can, and will get hits in their cold zones if you keep pitching there. And like wise, you can get players out on hot zone hits, but this is baseball, where 3 out of 10 makes you great.
                                Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici

                                "Do you know how to catch a ball with no eyes, and stubby hands?.......You catch it with your heart"

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