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  • ckarlic
    So Real!!
    • May 2003
    • 4999

    #211
    Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

    Im kind of curious to see who the other players that tested positive were? Remember, Arod is 1 out of atleast 100 others that tested positive. Hmmm, I wonder if we will see any Red Sox players on that list? (Manny, Ortiz, Kapler??????)

    Also, this was in 2003, BEFORE he joined the Yankees. And, ive been reading a lot of people from the "Red Sox" nation saying 26 world championships with an astericks. As I recall, the Yanks havent won a championship with Arod yet. When it does happen, then put an astericks to it if you like.
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    • BigDofBA
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      • Aug 2002
      • 9066

      #212
      Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

      Originally posted by ckarlic
      Im kind of curious to see who the other players that tested positive were? Remember, Arod is 1 out of atleast 100 others that tested positive. Hmmm, I wonder if we will see any Red Sox players on that list? (Manny, Ortiz, Kapler??????)

      Also, this was in 2003, BEFORE he joined the Yankees. And, ive been reading a lot of people from the "Red Sox" nation saying 26 world championships with an astericks. As I recall, the Yanks havent won a championship with Arod yet. When it does happen, then put an astericks to it if you like.
      Lets not act like everyone on the Red Sox is clean. It's not just the Yankees. I find it weird that Mitchell's report went after a lot of Yankee players but not any Red Sox players.

      Wasn't it already confirmed that Kapler juiced?

      I wouldn't be surprised if Manny Ramirez is the next big name we hear.
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      • fistofrage
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 13682

        #213
        Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

        So he's banished from the hall of fame now?

        Really looks like we should have 2 hall of fames, one pre steroid and one post. Pretty much anyone who put up any numbers between 198X and 2008 is going to be suspected of using the juice.
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        • ckarlic
          So Real!!
          • May 2003
          • 4999

          #214
          Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

          Originally posted by BigDofBA
          Lets not act like everyone on the Red Sox is clean. It's not just the Yankees. I find it weird that Mitchell's report went after a lot of Yankee players but not any Red Sox players.

          Wasn't it already confirmed that Kapler juiced?

          I wouldn't be surprised if Manny Ramirez is the next big name we hear.
          I agree. Before everyone passes judgement, lets wait to see who else is on that list. You never know, it might be someone whom you never expect.

          Im also curious to see how Arod responds. If he did test positive, I hope for his sake, he takes Andy Pettites and Giambi's route as opposed to what Clemens is doing.
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          • Pared
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            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #215
            Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

            Originally posted by ckarlic
            Im also curious to see how Arod responds. If he did test positive, I hope for his sake, he takes Andy Pettites and Giambi's route as opposed to what Clemens is doing.
            I think we all are. The guy can hide until he has to report for Spring Training. Once that hits... it's over...
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            • BigDofBA
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              • Aug 2002
              • 9066

              #216
              Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

              Originally posted by fistofrage
              So he's banished from the hall of fame now?

              Really looks like we should have 2 hall of fames, one pre steroid and one post. Pretty much anyone who put up any numbers between 198X and 2008 is going to be suspected of using the juice.
              I don't think we should have two hall of fames. Even if we did, would anyone want to be in the "dirty" hall of fame? There have been different things in baseball in different eras.

              Babe Ruth played before baseball was fully integrated. Should all of his records be thrown out? The competition wasn't as great back then as it is today.

              Players have been trying to get an edge in baseball ever since it's incarnation whether it be uppers, stealing signs, or scuffing the ball. I don't think their should be an asterisks next to anyone's name.

              I actually thought baseball was extremely entertaining in the mid-90's to the early 2000's.
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              • Porschebenz2001
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                • Nov 2004
                • 3628

                #217
                Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                Lets not act like everyone on the Red Sox is clean. It's not just the Yankees. I find it weird that Mitchell's report went after a lot of Yankee players but not any Red Sox players.

                Wasn't it already confirmed that Kapler juiced?

                I wouldn't be surprised if Manny Ramirez is the next big name we hear.
                Eh it's not that weird when you think about it. Mitchell used to work in the Red Sox front office.
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                • BigDofBA
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                  • Aug 2002
                  • 9066

                  #218
                  Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

                  Originally posted by Porschebenz2001
                  Eh it's not that weird when you think about it. Mitchell used to work in the Red Sox front office.
                  That was my point.

                  I hope Pujol's name doesn't come out. Sadly, I wouldn't be that surprised if it did.
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                  • Pared
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                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #219
                    Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

                    Originally posted by BigDofBA
                    That was my point.

                    I hope Pujol's name doesn't come out. Sadly, I wouldn't be that surprised if it did.
                    I don't think anyone would be at this point. This was the breaking point. A-Rod was MLB's golden boy and there's not much else can go wrong.

                    As much as people want to hate on the MLB, at least they are covering it right now. It's even on the Yankees own website. That's very responsible of them.
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                    • bigfnjoe96
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 11410

                      #220
                      Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

                      Reports are saying A-ROD will address the the "riod issue" TODAY via a statement or some kind of TV Interview...

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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #221
                        Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

                        If he's smart he avoids jumping around words and says something to the affect of:

                        I used steroids in 2003. I was wrong. I know how this affects MLB, the fans, my teammates, yadda, yadda yadda. I am now clean. I am tested every year to prove that. The best I can do is go out there, play baseball to the best of my ability for the Yankees, and hopefully win back the faith of my fans.

                        Say something like that and by the end of the season, no one will really care except for the typical fans that call him names and just seem to jump on whatever is the in-thing to hate on in baseball.
                        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #222
                          Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

                          Another confirmed idiot on that crap of a paper, the Daily News. Bill Maddon writes:

                          As difficult as it is to imagine eating $270 million, the Bombers will be making a statement, not just for the Yankee brand but for baseball as a whole.

                          They will be applauded for it.

                          The Yankees operate under two basic tenets: The relentless pursuit of championships and the fierce protection of their brand. If they are going to remain true to both, then they have no choice but to sever ties with Rodriguez.


                          Yea, the Yankees are going to eat $300 million dollars when the player can still perform and help them win games. Did this guy really read what he wrote or is he just short a few brain cells?


                          No one is going to applaud the Yankees for this except for maybe Bill Maddon. Why would the Yankees release Alex Rodriguez and watch him sign with another team so that he could beat them?


                          What makes this even more entertaining is how he talks about the Yankees brand and image, and yet, I bet if I did some research this very same guy would be talking about the Yankees needing to spend every dime they have to sign Sabathia, Texiera, Burnett, and every free agent in the world.



                          He doesn't mind when the Yankees are spending large wads of cash to win ballgames and forget the integrity of the game by diminishing any hopes of there being some form of competitive balance in baseball. But, when Alex Rodriguez is guility of using steroids before he was a Yankee, he wants them to cut him immediately without much thought.


                          Bill Maddon, may I present to you exhibit number one for why you write for the Daily News and no one respects you.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • N51_rob
                            Faceuary!
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 14805

                            #223
                            Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

                            Let me say that football is my favorite sport. I'm sure that HGH and steroids are rampant there. I really don't care that much. I'd rather be entertained by roided up players than by guys that I could find at any semi-pro game, especial given ticket prices these days. I also understand why baseball traditionalist would be upset about the drugs ruining the game. I also firmly believe that Bonds was a HOFer prior to his use of PED same for A-Rod. So why then did/do these 5 tool guys who are already head and shoulders better than any player playing their position do this? I read the Bonds/BALCO book it made it seem like his was mad that he was becoming and after though while guys who cheated the game were receiving his perceived accolades. A-Rod was already considered one of if not the best player at his position in the game. Why use this stuff?

                            That said. He is getting a bum rap. This stuff was suppose to be confidential and destroyed Gene Orza should be fired, sued and publicly embarrassed for his handling of this. For that fact that this was supposed to be confidential and used only to decide if MLB needed steroid testing I feel bad for A-Rod. The shine is gone from him as far as I'm concerned. I hope that his response to this is a truthful and open dialogue about why he did this. I could care less about fake apologies and empty promises about never doing it again. I want to know why one of the top 5 players of the past decade of the sport would use steroids to get further ahead of everyone else. Him saying that would go longer with me than any scripted apology.
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                            • Jet Sufferer
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1347

                              #224
                              Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

                              Originally posted by YankeePride
                              If he's smart he avoids jumping around words and says something to the affect of:

                              I used steroids in 2003. I was wrong. I know how this affects MLB, the fans, my teammates, yadda, yadda yadda. I am now clean. I am tested every year to prove that. The best I can do is go out there, play baseball to the best of my ability for the Yankees, and hopefully win back the faith of my fans.

                              Say something like that and by the end of the season, no one will really care except for the typical fans that call him names and just seem to jump on whatever is the in-thing to hate on in baseball.
                              If he says he only used in 2003 he would just be lying, just like the rest of the liars.

                              I didn't know what I was taking.
                              It was in an over the counter product......insert 100 other lawyer written lies here.

                              Then when caught, the REALLY big lie. "That was the only time I used it"

                              As for "testing clean" that's a total joke, all pro sports "testing" are referred to the players as I.Q. tests, if you get caught you're stupid.

                              He can start using HGH or a multitude of designer/undetectable steroids tomorrow until he's 350 pounds of muscle with 3% body fat and never fail a "test".

                              There's really no answer, the unions know what's going on, everyone with a working brain cell on the inside knows what's going on. I'm listening right now to Mike Francessa who just said it took them a long time to get some testing with some "teeth". LOLOLOL, if by teeth he means a 95 year old man with no teeth or dentures, then yes, the testing has "teeth".

                              The NFL? The list of guys NOT using is very short, good luck competing in the NFL against these monsters without using. It's as much a part of the game as the tape put on their ankles.

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                              • bigfnjoe96
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 11410

                                #225
                                Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

                                Originally posted by Jet Sufferer
                                If he says he only used in 2003 he would just be lying, just like the rest of the liars.
                                You do know he was tested numerous times since 04, including being tested in the WBC which is an International Competition & is governed by the same rules that governs the Olympics & never tested POSITIVE.

                                So to say he would be lying if he said he only did in 03 is an opinion

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