The official [Was/is he on Roids?] game thread

[PrettyT11]

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Just cause you take Roids it doesnt mean u automatically get bigger and we still dont know if these guys took Hgh as well and maybe not roids.

True but his body NEVER changed. He was skinny as hell from start to finish. There was no peak and valleys in his numbers. This whole everybody is guilty stuff is going a little to far. Yes there where alot of players doing it but to just say everybody was is a joke.

[MaverickisBack]

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Here are some I always suspected...

Jeff Bagwell
Brian Jordan
Rich Aurelia
Steve Finley
Luis Gonzalez
Henry Rodriguez
Jeromy Burnitz

I can go on and on... I was watching the MLB Network the other day (best channel on TV!) and they were giving their "classic games" marathon, which is awesome. I love watching games from the 90s and playing this game. I mean honestly IMO they were ALL juicing.

Jeff Bagwell - DEFINITELY...dude had NO neck
Brian Jordan - toss up
Rich Aurelia - yes
Steve Finley - hmmm tough, but NO
Luis Gonzalez - He seriously should get his money back
Henry Rodriguez - Henry who? He sucked to bad to care
Jeromy Burnitz - see above...but yes

Travis Hafner.

hmmmm...shockingly NO...i think he is just a big boy....although I think he is a pro wresling fan.

It might go a ways to explain his longevity and his fastball that he's known for.

Pedro Martinez?

Pedro...LMAO...definitely not...if he took the juice he wouldnt have been so injury prone and would have recovered better. Dude had no stamina.


ok here are some...not saying these guys do...just want to get your opinions. Out of this group I think 3 guys juiced

Jorge Posada
Terry Steinbach
Andruw Jones
Jim Thome
John Smoltz
Ruben Sierra
Al Leiter

[SPTO]

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It might go a ways to explain his longevity and his fastball that he's known for.

Pedro Martinez?

Well it's not like there haven't been pitchers who've pitched into their 40s. Tom Seaver was a bit of a fireballer and he pitched into his 40s IIRC. Then again, looking at the guys that pitched into their 40s most were finesse guys. The only other fastball type pitcher that pitched into his 40s that I can think off the top of my head would be Steve Carlton.

Also, didn't Randy Johnson lose some life on his fastball a couple years ago and everyone was saying he's done?

[Brandon13]

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I don't really like this game but I'll play along.

Jorge Posada
Terry Steinbach
Andruw Jones
Jim Thome
John Smoltz
Ruben Sierra
Al Leiter

Posada - maybe
Steinbach - I don't even remember him
Andruw - probably
Thome - eh, I guess I'll go with probably
Smoltz - no, I doubt it
Sierra - probably
Leiter - I doubt it

As for mine:

Chipper Jones

[EnigmaNemesis]

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It might go a ways to explain his longevity and his fastball that he's known for.

Pedro Martinez?

I am a Red Sox fan, and LOVED Pedro's swagger, and still do. But I will be the first to think, YES he took roid's.

That is why he was NOT injured those dominant years, and did not get injured until the steroid scandal broke.

One other reason is that I remember in 01 or 03 I cant remember, the Sox announcers were talking about how Pedro bulked up with something like 20 lbs of muscle. And the guy's neck was was as thick as a tree that year. That specifically stuck out to me.

As far as Big Papi, no way. He was never a muscle monster. Roids thin you out. I seen people take them, and not even work out, and it just leans you out so fast. He is just natually a big guy, but no giant arms or anything. In fact his arms are not that defined muscle wise. He just has a side-effect of bad knee and wrist the past 2 years, and the fact Manny went into his cry baby non-threat like he used to be, and then no Manny at all. He is not seeing good pitches anymore, and his health is in question. Plus Ortiz's most dominant years were AFTER the steroid story broke and there was heavy testing.

Sure he didnt hit with the Twins like he did with the Sox, but he also did not have the best right-handed hitter in baseball to protect him either on the Twins.

My roid sure fire user is Ivan Rodriguez. The guy was a stocky muscular little monster ... hit moonshots for being so small. The year after the steroid story broke and they had heavy "in the public testing" ... he looked like a little league player. Swear he lost 30 lbs of muscle. And his HR numbers plummeted. It was also the same year Bonds had a "knee injury" and couldnt play, and Giambi had some "super crazy unheard of stomach virus" that kept him out most of the year. Ironic.

[SoxFan01605]

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True but his body NEVER changed. He was skinny as hell from start to finish. There was no peak and valleys in his numbers. This whole everybody is guilty stuff is going a little to far. Yes there where alot of players doing it but to just say everybody was is a joke.

Interesting. A-Rod's body hardly changed (at least in an unnatural way) and he has some of the most consistent numbers in the game.

Why is the "everybody is guilty" perspective going too far when Randy Johnson is mentioned? I don't think he is guilty, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was.

The truth is, nobody knows, everyone is suspect, the end. It might be silly to say 100% everyone is guilty, but it's equally as silly to decide that a player can't be because you like him.

That aside, there are only 2 players that I would be totally surprised if they got called out. Ripken and Gwynn...that's it. Sad but true

[DXZeke]

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Most of the guys were taking the low grade stuff that would help their body recover from fatigue and injuries. Thus pushing their bodies too hard.


Ken Griffy Jr was hurt to much to be taking something since he would have a played a ton more games.

As much as I like Jim Thome, I'd not be surprised.

I can't see Cal Ripken being on any of it.

[jake44np]

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What about Luis Gonzalez?
The guy went from hitting 20 or so HRS a year to hitting 57 in 2001 when roids where the most common.
Then once testing started he has hit 17, 24 ,15, 15, and 8???

[PrettyT11]

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Interesting. A-Rod's body hardly changed (at least in an unnatural way) and he has some of the most consistent numbers in the game.

Why is the "everybody is guilty" perspective going too far when Randy Johnson is mentioned? I don't think he is guilty, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was.

The truth is, nobody knows, everyone is suspect, the end. It might be silly to say 100% everyone is guilty, but it's equally as silly to decide that a player can't be because you like him.

That aside, there are only 2 players that I would be totally surprised if they got called out. Ripken and Gwynn...that's it. Sad but true

Umm A-Rod gained weight and muscle mass. Randy Johnson has been the same size his whole career. The comment about the everybody is guilty thing is not directed at bringing him up and it isn't the first time I made a comment about that reasoning. Randy has nothing to do with that. Never once did I say I was a fan of him or anybody else besides Griffey. I made the comment about this thread and others saying everybody is guilty til proven innocent which is wrong. So next time lets actually read before jumping to conclusions and making statements that are completely false.

[BigDofBA]

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Manny Ramirez. The dude has gotten huge since he has came into the league. The only difference between him and some of the other juicer's is his diet. The dude is a lard *** but he is still really strong.

As Jose Canseco would say, vindicated!!!!

[Marino]

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Albert Pujols.

[sportyguyfl31]

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Im convinced Luis Gonzalez was on steriods

Andruw Jones

Brett Boone was most certainly on steriods.

If i'm going to bne fair here..gotta say that I hope Piazza doesnt show up on any lists, but it wouldnt shock me if he did.

Jeff Bagwell

Frank Thomas: remember his mini resurgance after it looked like he was washed up in his early 30's?

Jim Thome
Matt Williams
Juan Gonzalez
Travis Hafner


Guys who fall into the "If They Arent.Werent Clean, Then NO ONE Is/Was Clean" category

Derek Jeter
David Wright
Ken Griffey Jr.
Lance Berkman
Edgar Martinez
Vlad Guerrero
Craig Biggio
Joe Mauer
Grady Sizemore
Todd Helton
Jason Bay

those are the ones that come to mind off the top of my head

[arseniotall]

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Im convinced Luis Gonzalez was on steriods

Andruw Jones

Brett Boone was most certainly on steriods.

If i'm going to bne fair here..gotta say that I hope Piazza doesnt show up on any lists, but it wouldnt shock me if he did.

Jeff Bagwell

Frank Thomas: remember his mini resurgance after it looked like he was washed up in his early 30's?

Jim Thome
Matt Williams
Juan Gonzalez
Travis Hafner


Guys who fall into the "If They Arent.Werent Clean, Then NO ONE Is/Was Clean" category

Derek Jeter
David Wright
Ken Griffey Jr.
Lance Berkman
Edgar Martinez
Vlad Guerrero
Craig Biggio
Joe Mauer
Grady Sizemore
Todd Helton
Jason Bay

those are the ones that come to mind off the top of my head

I dunno i always thought David Wright and Mauer had big *** necks..lol.. I think Texeira clearly has stopped teken em this year...lol. Hafner is number 1 on my list tho.

[SPTO]

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Frank Thomas probably maybe took something but not roids. Remember the guy testified in court about the steroid issue. Would he be dumb enough to commit perjury?

Oh and i'm salivating for the day Pujols is outed.

[sportyguyfl31]

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I dont believe Pujols is on roids though.

I dont believe for one second that he is 29 years old, however.

I'd bet my mortgage, that man is 2 years older then his listed age.