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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42533

    #31
    Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

    Originally posted by bukktown
    Bonds in 02 and 03 was the best hitter that I have ever seen in my life. You could not throw him a strike.
    I rank his 2001 - 2004 MVP seasons from best to worst like this without question:

    2004
    2002
    2001
    2003

    But you're right, he was in a league of his own and couldn't produce an out. He was also a true clutch performer as well. Still could be if a team would sign him...
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    • OSUFan_88
      Outback Jesus
      • Jul 2004
      • 25642

      #32
      Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

      Bonds had the best swing I've ever seen and ever will see, steroids or no steroids.

      The guy had a Hall of Fame swing.

      As for right now...eithe The Machine or Victor.
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      Urban Meyer is lol.

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      • wsu_gb23
        Banned
        • Feb 2008
        • 1641

        #33
        Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

        I wouldn't say it's Pujols. I would lean more to a guy like Chipper Jones. Pujols will go 0-4 one night and 4-4 the next. A pure hitter hits consistently like Tony Gwynn.

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        • Brandon13
          All Star
          • Oct 2005
          • 8915

          #34
          Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

          Originally posted by wsu_gb23
          I wouldn't say it's Pujols. I would lean more to a guy like Chipper Jones. Pujols will go 0-4 one night and 4-4 the next. A pure hitter hits consistently like Tony Gwynn.
          I very well may be the biggest Chipper fan here and there's no way he's a better hitter than Pujols. Pujols consistently gets hits at a higher percentage than the rest of the players in MLB. He consistency slugs at a higher percentage than everyone else. He's virtually tied for first in OBP among active players.

          He's the best. No doubt.

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          • steelcurtain311
            Banned
            • Feb 2009
            • 2087

            #35
            Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

            Originally posted by wsu_gb23
            I wouldn't say it's Pujols. I would lean more to a guy like Chipper Jones. Pujols will go 0-4 one night and 4-4 the next. A pure hitter hits consistently like Tony Gwynn.
            Huh? Albert bats well over .300 every season. His OBP is always sky high. He barely strikes out at all. He's one of the most consistent hitters ever already, at all aspects of hitting, while a Tony Gwynn wasn't.

            It's unquestionably Albert Pujols, although a healthy Joe Mauer or Chipper Jones are up there too.

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            • bkrich83
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              • Jul 2002
              • 71582

              #36
              Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

              Adrian Gonzalez.
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              • bkrich83
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                • Jul 2002
                • 71582

                #37
                Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

                Originally posted by Blzer
                I rank his 2001 - 2004 MVP seasons from best to worst like this without question:

                2004
                2002
                2001
                2003

                But you're right, he was in a league of his own and couldn't produce an out. He was also a true clutch performer as well. Still could be if a team would sign him...

                Better put asterisks next to all those years.
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                • Blzer
                  Resident film pundit
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 42533

                  #38
                  Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

                  Originally posted by bkrich83
                  Better put asterisks next to all those years.
                  Good idea.

                  2004*
                  2002*
                  2001*
                  2003*


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                  • snepp
                    We'll waste him too.
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 10007

                    #39
                    Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Good idea.

                    2004*
                    2002*
                    2001*
                    2003*


                    * Best single-handed chemically-enhanced offensive performances of all time.
                    You're absolutely right.
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                    • steelcurtain311
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 2087

                      #40
                      Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

                      Once you disregard Bonds steroid use, he's still a top 10 hitter ever. It's all about the eye, the patience, the talent, and he had all of it. Albert is the next closest thing, and a better hitter (and player) than Bonds in my opinion. So to answer the question of the thread, it's Albert Pujols. I think he might be the best hitter any of us will ever see with our own eyes.

                      People just need to forget the steroids era, nothing in it matters. When scrubs like Brady Anderson and Luis Gonzalez are hitting 60 HR's it really compromises the game. That entire era made the whole game about power (and the absurd amount of it that went with the era), and that's why people like Ryan Howard win the MVP today despite not deserving it. Baseball isn't about HR's.

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                      • bkrich83
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71582

                        #41
                        Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

                        Originally posted by steelcurtain311
                        Huh? Albert bats well over .300 every season. His OBP is always sky high. He barely strikes out at all. He's one of the most consistent hitters ever already, at all aspects of hitting, while a Tony Gwynn wasn't.

                        It's unquestionably Albert Pujols, although a healthy Joe Mauer or Chipper Jones are up there too.
                        Tony Gwynn hit nearly .340 over 20 seasons. Never hit less than .309 in that span. Never struck out more than 40 times. Won 8 batting titles, hit .368 or above 4 times, and flirted with .400. If not for the 94 strike had a very good chance of hitting .400. He also did it for the majority of his career before the league, and pitching in particular had become as watered down as it has in recent years. Although I think pitching is making a come back as there are some terrific young arms out there right now.

                        Pujols is a great hitter, and imo the best hitter in this era, but give credit where credit is due. Gwynn also did some things with the bat Pujols hasn't and he did it over a span of 2 decades.
                        Last edited by bkrich83; 05-17-2009, 03:56 AM.
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                        • steelcurtain311
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2087

                          #42
                          Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

                          It wasn't a knock on Gwynn in the slightest, he's one of the greatest hitters ever. All I'm saying is that Albert can not only hit for average like Tony Gwynn, he can also murder 40 HR's a year and drive in 100 runs in any offense. Tony Gwynn couldn't. Nor did Tony walk like him. Nothing wrong with not being a power hitter, but when you're the kind Albert is, it gives you an edge. What exactly could Tony Gwynn do that Albert couldn't at the plate?

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                          • asrabbit91
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 1242

                            #43
                            Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

                            Definitely Albert, because he puts the ball in play. He isn't just a hit or miss type hitter. He is actually more of a doubles hitter than a hr hitter imo. Albert does it all. Just look at his consistency throughout his career.

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                            • bkrich83
                              Has Been
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71582

                              #44
                              Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

                              Originally posted by steelcurtain311
                              It wasn't a knock on Gwynn in the slightest, he's one of the greatest hitters ever. All I'm saying is that Albert can not only hit for average like Tony Gwynn, he can also murder 40 HR's a year and drive in 100 runs in any offense. Tony Gwynn couldn't. Nor did Tony walk like him. Nothing wrong with not being a power hitter, but when you're the kind Albert is, it gives you an edge. What exactly could Tony Gwynn do that Albert couldn't at the plate?
                              Gwynn could put the bat on the ball more consistently. Again, in all those AB's never struck out more than 40 times. Look at a season like 1984. He had 675 PA's and struck out 21 times.

                              Which is also why he didn't draw a lot of walk. He simply put the ball in play before he could be walked. In 1994 he hit .394 while striking out just 19 times. He was quite possibly the greatest hit and run hitter of all time. And Gwynn did what he did for the most part against better overall pitching. Particularly before the baseball's re-alignment.

                              Pujols is great and I agree with you, in todays day and age, best hitter bar none. I think some people forgot how great Gwynn was. Barry Bonds once said, he's the only player he'd actually pay to see hit. And because he didn't hit for power doesn't mean he couldn't. Much like Ichiro, he simply doesn't because that's not his role. (Not that he'd have anywhere near the power Pujols has), but I have heard many baseball people who know a lot more than any of us say Gwynn could have been a 25-30 HR guy if he sacrificed some average.
                              Last edited by bkrich83; 05-17-2009, 06:01 PM.
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                              • ChubbyBanana
                                Don't Trust Influencers
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 7071

                                #45
                                Re: Who is the best pure hitter in the league?

                                Gwynn was no joke, that's for sure.
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