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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42520

    #61
    Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

    Originally posted by kujoking7
    i think that if anyone can give up 0 hits in 9-innings, it's astonishing
    See, that was the great thing about Sanchez's outing. Nobody earned their way on base by a walk or hit by pitch. He had to get 28 outs for the no-hitter, and should have been a perfect game. The team shouldn't matter (it should help, but it shouldn't matter). Giving up no hits while not working around batters for four balls in any one plate appearance is, as you put it, astonishing.
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    • pfunk880
      MVP
      • Jul 2004
      • 4452

      #62
      Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

      Originally posted by kujoking7
      lester no-hit the royals last year, was that a no hitter?

      i think that if anyone can give up 0 hits in 9-innings, it's astonishing
      Originally posted by Scottdau
      They are still a major league team. So I will still take it!
      Exactly.
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      • Scottdau
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 32580

        #63
        Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

        Giants fans have been told a long time ago that this kid has amazing stuff. And we believe them, but his biggest problem was control. If he can get the control problem fixed and he might have. He looked great in relief too. Then skies the limit for this kid. I wonder if the Giants will try to trade him now! I wouldn't. A left hand pitcher with that kind of stuff is not easy to find. Unless M.B. keeps tearing it up in AA.

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        • remix
          MVP
          • Aug 2004
          • 2718

          #64
          Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

          I don't understand all the bashing of Sanchez or the Padres. Actually, the whole NL-West gets bashed. What's the point? In baseball, heavy hitting lineups stacked with big time players can get run over and vice versa. Baseball is a game of 162 games played for that very reason.

          Hats off to Sanchez for this amazing feat of not allowing a hit or walking a player. The fact that his previous history showed nothing to really believe he would be the first player to do it this year and in Giants history in the past 30 or so years.. it's awesome. Also the fact that this was the first time his dad had come to a game to see him pitch in the bigs makes it even better.
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          • csker7
            Rookie
            • Apr 2009
            • 279

            #65
            Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

            yeah its stupid that people would try to disclaim what sanchez did becuz he played a bad team. so basically those people are also saying that if a guy hits a hr off a lousy pitcher, it shouldnt count. if a good team beats a bad one, the win shoudlnt count. if a team wins a weak division it shouldnt count. i think its ridiculous to judge things based on how good the other team is. all those players/teams are professionals! they're in the bigs for one reason or another and obviously have talent if they're there! yes, sanchez didnt no hit a team like the yankees, but he still threw one!

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            • Bona Fide
              Rookie
              • Jun 2009
              • 203

              #66
              Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

              Good for him, but I don't understand how people think one great outing all the sudden erases his career of mediocrity, and turns him into a great pitcher.

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              • Scottdau
                Banned
                • Feb 2003
                • 32580

                #67
                Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

                Originally posted by Bona Fide
                Good for him, but I don't understand how people think one great outing all the sudden erases his career of mediocrity, and turns him into a great pitcher.
                Did anyone say that? But as a Giants fan. I think this will turn him around. Unless the control problems come back. I think he tweak his motion and it has helped. He looked great in relief, so I am hopeful.

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                • Bona Fide
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 203

                  #68
                  Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

                  Unless his control problems come back? Just because he pitched one excellent game where his control was perfect doesn't mean his control issues have gone away. If he limits his walks over the next 4 or 5 starts I might be more convinced. I think he had everything click for him this one start. Not saying he's a bad pitcher, but I seriously believe he isn't going to develop into anything but a #3 starter at very best. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, wouldn't be the first time.

                  Oh, and you called him dominating as a reliever...he has pitched 4 innings in relief this year. 3 of them coming when the Giants were blowing out the other team.

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                  • Scottdau
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 32580

                    #69
                    Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

                    Originally posted by Bona Fide
                    Unless his control problems come back? Just because he pitched one excellent game where his control was perfect doesn't mean his control issues have gone away. If he limits his walks over the next 4 or 5 starts I might be more convinced. I think he had everything click for him this one start. Not saying he's a bad pitcher, but I seriously believe he isn't going to develop into anything but a #3 starter at very best. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, wouldn't be the first time.

                    Oh, and you called him dominating as a reliever...he has pitched 4 innings in relief this year. 3 of them coming when the Giants were blowing out the other team.
                    Sure you can say that, but in baseball we go by how they are doing now. And his last game he throw a No hitter, so I say he is doing well. All kidding aside he looked great in the relief role and they say that Rags has been working with him. Mostly in his delivery, so to me I think he is going to be fine. I would say he was dominating as reliever and he still can be. He probably be great in that role. It is usually after 3 to 4 innings is where the problems started for him.

                    I don't know I still think he can be a number 1. He has nasty stuff and he is now starting to put it together. We will see how he does his next start. But you have to give it to him. He had control issues and now he throws a No hitter with no walks. You have to give him so props! I have faith in Sanchez
                    Last edited by Scottdau; 07-12-2009, 10:06 PM.

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                    • kujoking7
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 147

                      #70
                      Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

                      Originally posted by Bona Fide
                      Good for him, but I don't understand how people think one great outing all the sudden erases his career of mediocrity, and turns him into a great pitcher.
                      i said such a thing, and i believe it because he always had the stuff to become a good pitcher, but always had control issues. i mean look at lester, after he no-hit the royals, he all of a sudden became a stud.
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                      • BatsareBugs
                        LVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12553

                        #71
                        Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

                        Originally posted by kujoking7
                        i said such a thing, and i believe it because he always had the stuff to become a good pitcher, but always had control issues. i mean look at lester, after he no-hit the royals, he all of a sudden became a stud.
                        Ditto on Clay Buchholz.

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                        • kujoking7
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 147

                          #72
                          Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

                          Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
                          Ditto on Clay Buchholz.
                          verlander had one in 07, millwood in 03, and burnett in 01, and those all started careers
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                          • Bona Fide
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 203

                            #73
                            Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

                            Is that Buchholz comment sarcasm? I definitely wouldn't say his no-hitter has "started his career" based on how he has done since. And then of course there are pitchers like Bud Smith and Anibal Sanchez (which I know probably isn't fair because of injuries, but oh well) who also haven't had great success since.

                            I'm not saying Jonathan Sanchez is a bad pitcher, I'm just saying let's wait a bit before we crown him a stud.

                            Oh, and how did Millwood's "start" his career? Guy was pretty established before that.

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                            • pfunk880
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 4452

                              #74
                              Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

                              Originally posted by Bona Fide
                              Is that Buchholz comment sarcasm? I definitely wouldn't say his no-hitter has "started his career" based on how he has done since. And then of course there are pitchers like Bud Smith and Anibal Sanchez (which I know probably isn't fair because of injuries, but oh well) who also haven't had great success since.

                              I'm not saying Jonathan Sanchez is a bad pitcher, I'm just saying let's wait a bit before we crown him a stud.

                              Oh, and how did Millwood's "start" his career? Guy was pretty established before that.
                              I'm pretty sure the comment about Buchholz was sarcasm.

                              And ditto to Verlander on the no-hitter starting his career, his career was also off to a good start prior to the no-no.
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                              • kujoking7
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 147

                                #75
                                Re: Jonathan Sanchez NO HITTER

                                dude bud smith was my old school's pitching coach last year
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