Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

[JBH3]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

I hear ya Scott. You guys still couldn't take the division. Remember he was suspended for 50 games and the Dodgers still have a comfy lead.

Uh...2007 Mets...hello!!!!!!!!!

The 1964 Phillies?

The Phillies squandered a 6<SUP>1</SUP><BIG>⁄</BIG><SUB>2</SUB> game lead, posting a 10-game losing streak with 12 games remaining in the 1964 season and losing the pennant by one game to the Cardinals

Your lead is only 7 games...that's not comfy.

[snepp]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

He needs Pujols to be guilty so he can feel better about Barroid. Duh.

Isn't it obvious? Bonds fell, now he wants the next big name to fall. This way, Bonds isn't the only one cheating to get records.

He's a Barry lover.

This, this, and this.

[Mr.Wednesday]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

Uh...2007 Mets...hello!!!!!!!!!

The 1964 Phillies?



Your lead is only 7 games...that's not comfy.

True. I was just giving Scott a hard time.

[Scottdau]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

True. I was just giving Scott a hard time.

Dude for real now! Your lead would be safe at 2 games. We are not going to win the Div. We might have a shot at the WC though. But that will depend on both sanchezes'

[CMH]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

Dude. The steroids are sold over the counter at drug stores. We have to get a prescription from a doctor...In the DR and Cuba I know for a fact that you can just walk into a drug store and buy steroids.

EDIT: They did this on the documentary "Sicko" in Cuba, and there's widespread reporting about the availibility of steroids OTC at drug stores in DR.

I probably wasn't clear enough. I wasn't saying they don't have easier access to it. I was suggesting that it's not the primary reason they use it. The reasons are deeper than just having it over the counter.

[Chip Douglass]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

Uh...2007 Mets...hello!!!!!!!!!

The 1964 Phillies?



Your lead is only 7 games...that's not comfy.

"Only" 7 games?

[Blzer]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

I think Ortiz just sent a message to the leak. A 425 foot three run go-ahead bomb to put the Sox ahead of the A's.

He's saying, "No een mai hausse!"

[SPTO]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

I think Ortiz just sent a message to the leak. A 425 foot three run go-ahead bomb to put the Sox ahead of the A's.

He's saying, "No een mai hausse!"

Someone test Big Papi after the game!

[ehh]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

Would everyone's head explode if Derek Jeter's name were on the list? Or just Tim McCarver's?

If Jeter's name ever shows up on a list then he needs to go back to his dealer and demand a refund cause they def didn't do a damn thing.

[Blzer]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

Someone test Big Papi after the game!

Speaking of which, when did this news really come out? I mean I'm sure Papi has already been informed, but what about the fans at the ballpark? Man, that must be pretty strange to be driving home later in the day and hearing about it on the radio.

[Freelance]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

LMAO at anyone saying the Sox championships are tainted. So, if you look at it that way, the last god knows how many World Series titles are tainted as well. Face it, the majority of the league is on PED's, so if you are going to taint one team, you need to taint them all.

I'm not condoning this at all, as being a Sox fan, this is a sad, yet expected day. It just frustrates me that people immediately say "taint the titles!" when it's blatantly clear that you'd also have to taint damn near every other title from the past 20 years, at least.

No, they'd DEFINITELY be tainted. The whole league is.

It's as if the All-Star Game showcases the leagues steroid users, while the average, non-using players stay at home and watch the All-Star game.

This is very troubling for Major League Baseball. It seems to be concentrated among the superstar players, which makes the whole league look like a sham.

[MizzouBravesFan]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

...wonder how long until Griffey Jr.'s name starts popping up.

[Checmate101]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

Pujols is next.

Again, I'ma say who cares..It's not me. I'm not going to be heartbroken if he is next

[DrJones]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

This is very troubling for Major League Baseball.

How so? From a business perspective, MLB and the MLBPA have been completely vindicated of looking the other way regarding steroids for the past two decades. The players are richer than ever, the owners are richer than ever, attendance is higher than ever. Fans have said, over and over again, "We don't care if our players were/are juicing as long as our team is winning and we're being entertained." The only thing that concerns MLB is $$$, and there's no evidence that widespread steroid use is costing MLB any revenue.

[stateprop]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on &quot;The List&quot;

HOLY HIT if Griffey and DJ is on that list. That would send a huge ripple effect in baseball. If those 2 guys i mean wow i cant imagine the damaged baseball would take if those 2 were on the list. Big AL who cares alot of people suspecting him of roiding it up so he got caught its wouldnt be a big deal. But DJ and Griffey are consider the golden boys of the steriod era.