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  • PDex
    Pro
    • May 2003
    • 710

    #31
    Re: Rookie Of The Year

    I hate these Japanese guys that come over and win ROY's. They don't deserve them. Guys who have been playing pro ball for 10 years should not be eligible for ROY. C.C. Sabathia was robbed by Ichiro in 2001. Any other year C.C. wins by a long shot. He had 17 wins and was in the running for the Cy Young. Ichiro was a pro for like 9 years.

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    • SFBonds
      Rookie
      • Apr 2003
      • 64

      #32
      Re: Rookie Of The Year


      I vote for Dontrelle Willis for ROY.
      8-1, 2.26 ERA, 2 Complete Game Shutouts.
      The guy's a G

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      • SFBonds
        Rookie
        • Apr 2003
        • 64

        #33
        Re: Rookie Of The Year


        I vote for Dontrelle Willis for ROY.
        8-1, 2.26 ERA, 2 Complete Game Shutouts.
        The guy's a G

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        • SFBonds
          Rookie
          • Apr 2003
          • 64

          #34
          Re: Rookie Of The Year


          I vote for Dontrelle Willis for ROY.
          8-1, 2.26 ERA, 2 Complete Game Shutouts.
          The guy's a G

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          • GCrusher23
            MVP
            • Dec 2002
            • 1170

            #35
            Re: Rookie Of The Year

            What it should be is any player with time in ANY big leagues, including any country, should not be considered for rookie of the year. If a guy spends 5 years hitting 50 home runs a year in Japan in their big leagues it's not fair to come over and win rookie of the year here.

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            • GCrusher23
              MVP
              • Dec 2002
              • 1170

              #36
              Re: Rookie Of The Year

              What it should be is any player with time in ANY big leagues, including any country, should not be considered for rookie of the year. If a guy spends 5 years hitting 50 home runs a year in Japan in their big leagues it's not fair to come over and win rookie of the year here.

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              • GCrusher23
                MVP
                • Dec 2002
                • 1170

                #37
                Re: Rookie Of The Year

                What it should be is any player with time in ANY big leagues, including any country, should not be considered for rookie of the year. If a guy spends 5 years hitting 50 home runs a year in Japan in their big leagues it's not fair to come over and win rookie of the year here.

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                • Meatloaf86
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1580

                  #38
                  Re: Rookie Of The Year

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  MarWinner said:
                  What about Scott Podsednik? The guys batting like .320, has 16SBs, and has been awesome as Milwaukee's lead off hitter. He would be ROY leader prolly if it wasn't for Dontrelle.

                  You said just choose one Rookie, I'd say Dontrelle. He's almost been unhittable.

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                  couldn't agree more with you on Podsednik. one problem he isn't the lead off hitter. today he was but that's because Keith Ginter was playing 2B instead of Eric Young who would usually be leadoff. ya i watch the Brewers a lot. i was at todays game and Podsednik showed great base running skills and awareness. i think Ginter hit a shot to deep CF, Hunter caught and Scotty was on 2B he was going to tag up but then saw Hunter firing the ball into Rivas.

                  NL- Scott Podsednik CF Milwaukee Brewers
                  AL- Eric Byrnes OF Oakland Athletics

                  Willis and Seo are a close 2nd in the NL and Rocco is a close 2nd in in AL. if Byrnes isn't a rookie then my vote is Rocco.
                  Teams:

                  NFL - Packers & Browns
                  MLB - Brewers & Twins
                  NCAA Football - Wisconsin, LSU, Virginia Tech
                  Soccer - Arsenal, Wolverhampton
                  NHL - Wild

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                  • Meatloaf86
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 1580

                    #39
                    Re: Rookie Of The Year

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    MarWinner said:
                    What about Scott Podsednik? The guys batting like .320, has 16SBs, and has been awesome as Milwaukee's lead off hitter. He would be ROY leader prolly if it wasn't for Dontrelle.

                    You said just choose one Rookie, I'd say Dontrelle. He's almost been unhittable.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    couldn't agree more with you on Podsednik. one problem he isn't the lead off hitter. today he was but that's because Keith Ginter was playing 2B instead of Eric Young who would usually be leadoff. ya i watch the Brewers a lot. i was at todays game and Podsednik showed great base running skills and awareness. i think Ginter hit a shot to deep CF, Hunter caught and Scotty was on 2B he was going to tag up but then saw Hunter firing the ball into Rivas.

                    NL- Scott Podsednik CF Milwaukee Brewers
                    AL- Eric Byrnes OF Oakland Athletics

                    Willis and Seo are a close 2nd in the NL and Rocco is a close 2nd in in AL. if Byrnes isn't a rookie then my vote is Rocco.
                    Teams:

                    NFL - Packers & Browns
                    MLB - Brewers & Twins
                    NCAA Football - Wisconsin, LSU, Virginia Tech
                    Soccer - Arsenal, Wolverhampton
                    NHL - Wild

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                    • Meatloaf86
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1580

                      #40
                      Re: Rookie Of The Year

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      MarWinner said:
                      What about Scott Podsednik? The guys batting like .320, has 16SBs, and has been awesome as Milwaukee's lead off hitter. He would be ROY leader prolly if it wasn't for Dontrelle.

                      You said just choose one Rookie, I'd say Dontrelle. He's almost been unhittable.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      couldn't agree more with you on Podsednik. one problem he isn't the lead off hitter. today he was but that's because Keith Ginter was playing 2B instead of Eric Young who would usually be leadoff. ya i watch the Brewers a lot. i was at todays game and Podsednik showed great base running skills and awareness. i think Ginter hit a shot to deep CF, Hunter caught and Scotty was on 2B he was going to tag up but then saw Hunter firing the ball into Rivas.

                      NL- Scott Podsednik CF Milwaukee Brewers
                      AL- Eric Byrnes OF Oakland Athletics

                      Willis and Seo are a close 2nd in the NL and Rocco is a close 2nd in in AL. if Byrnes isn't a rookie then my vote is Rocco.
                      Teams:

                      NFL - Packers & Browns
                      MLB - Brewers & Twins
                      NCAA Football - Wisconsin, LSU, Virginia Tech
                      Soccer - Arsenal, Wolverhampton
                      NHL - Wild

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                      • TimmeH
                        Cult of Personality
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 4588

                        #41
                        Re: Rookie Of The Year

                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        Meatloaf86 said:
                        couldn't agree more with you on Podsednik. one problem he isn't the lead off hitter. today he was but that's because Keith Ginter was playing 2B instead of Eric Young who would usually be leadoff. ya i watch the Brewers a lot. i was at todays game and Podsednik showed great base running skills and awareness. i think Ginter hit a shot to deep CF, Hunter caught and Scotty was on 2B he was going to tag up but then saw Hunter firing the ball into Rivas.

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        Bah, my fault. I know he's normally the number 2 hitter, but I always think of him as a leadoff hitter with his speed and avg.

                        Did you see him tag up and come home during today's game? Haha, no one else on the Brewers would have ever made it on that shallow of a fly.
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                        • TimmeH
                          Cult of Personality
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 4588

                          #42
                          Re: Rookie Of The Year

                          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                          Meatloaf86 said:
                          couldn't agree more with you on Podsednik. one problem he isn't the lead off hitter. today he was but that's because Keith Ginter was playing 2B instead of Eric Young who would usually be leadoff. ya i watch the Brewers a lot. i was at todays game and Podsednik showed great base running skills and awareness. i think Ginter hit a shot to deep CF, Hunter caught and Scotty was on 2B he was going to tag up but then saw Hunter firing the ball into Rivas.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          Bah, my fault. I know he's normally the number 2 hitter, but I always think of him as a leadoff hitter with his speed and avg.

                          Did you see him tag up and come home during today's game? Haha, no one else on the Brewers would have ever made it on that shallow of a fly.
                          Co-Commish of the OS Vets I & II
                          Vets I | Green Bay Packers(11-6)
                          | Last Game: L 31-6 @ CAR (Wild Card Round)
                          Vets II | Washington Redskins(13-6) | Last Game: L 37-34 OT @ ATL (NFC Conference Championship)

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                          • TimmeH
                            Cult of Personality
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 4588

                            #43
                            Re: Rookie Of The Year

                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            Meatloaf86 said:
                            couldn't agree more with you on Podsednik. one problem he isn't the lead off hitter. today he was but that's because Keith Ginter was playing 2B instead of Eric Young who would usually be leadoff. ya i watch the Brewers a lot. i was at todays game and Podsednik showed great base running skills and awareness. i think Ginter hit a shot to deep CF, Hunter caught and Scotty was on 2B he was going to tag up but then saw Hunter firing the ball into Rivas.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            Bah, my fault. I know he's normally the number 2 hitter, but I always think of him as a leadoff hitter with his speed and avg.

                            Did you see him tag up and come home during today's game? Haha, no one else on the Brewers would have ever made it on that shallow of a fly.
                            Co-Commish of the OS Vets I & II
                            Vets I | Green Bay Packers(11-6)
                            | Last Game: L 31-6 @ CAR (Wild Card Round)
                            Vets II | Washington Redskins(13-6) | Last Game: L 37-34 OT @ ATL (NFC Conference Championship)

                            Vets Bowl I Champion | Vets Bowl II Runner-Up

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                            • AI_Franchise03
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 2168

                              #44
                              Re: Rookie Of The Year

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                              dieselboy said:
                              Matsui and Willis.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Agreed.
                              Also, to the person who mentioned that Japanese players don't classify as rookies, I definetely have to disagree. The pitching and hitting in Japan is different that it is in the MLB. Most pitchers throw sidearmed and most of the strikes thrown are fastballs. No breaking balls or offspeed pitches. Just look how Matsui was affected by the MLB pitching last year during International play.
                              The American players who enter the league actually have an advantage over the Japanese athlethes because they're used to the pitching and hitting.
                              " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
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                              • AI_Franchise03
                                MVP
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 2168

                                #45
                                Re: Rookie Of The Year

                                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                                dieselboy said:
                                Matsui and Willis.

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                Agreed.
                                Also, to the person who mentioned that Japanese players don't classify as rookies, I definetely have to disagree. The pitching and hitting in Japan is different that it is in the MLB. Most pitchers throw sidearmed and most of the strikes thrown are fastballs. No breaking balls or offspeed pitches. Just look how Matsui was affected by the MLB pitching last year during International play.
                                The American players who enter the league actually have an advantage over the Japanese athlethes because they're used to the pitching and hitting.
                                " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
                                - Lavar Arrington on his new Redskins teammate Sean Taylor.

                                The World Is At Your Feet.

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