Worst and Best Trade Moves of the 2000's
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This is far from the worst trade of the decade. C.C. was leaving at the end of the year no matter what and the Tribe wasn't in contention so they were looking to trade him for prospects. Brantley has struggled at the major league level but dominated in AAA so he still could be a great player in the future. While they might not have gotten the best prospects they could have gotten it was still not a bad trade. The Manny for Jason Bay wasn't bad either because the Red Sox were just looking to get Manny off of the team.ESPN NFL 2K5 GREATEST FOOTBALL GAME EVER!
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If I remember correctly at all, LaPorta was a pretty highly ranked prospect at the time when we gave him to Cleveland for CC.Member: OS Uni Snob Association | Twitter: @MyNameIsJesseG | #WT4M | #WatchTheWorldBurn
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That was my bad they didn't get Brantley in that deal it was LaPorta and he is the Indians starting first baseman of the future. It wasn't a terrible deal considering LaPorta is much better then what they would have gotten with the draft pick compensations and he had more experience then any draft pick would.ESPN NFL 2K5 GREATEST FOOTBALL GAME EVER!
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Also, although Jason Bay is with the NYM now, overall games played Jason bay played more games.
Even if you looked at the highly selective time frame of 2008-2009 (in which Bay played 43 more games), Ramirez still out-WARed Bay significantly because he was a much better hitter.
And Manny recently stated he will be leaving L.A. this year... His play was good at best. Where it was expected to be spectacular.
That's an absurd thing to say. He had a 1.232 OPS with the Dodgers in 2008 and he's had a career line of .323/.434/.582 in LA.
Boston was the CLEAR winner of that trade.
This isn't even debatable. Boston clearly downgraded from LF in that trade.Last edited by Chip Douglass; 08-07-2010, 02:12 AM.I write things on the Internet.
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Yep, the Marlins probably don't even make that trade unless they can give up Dontrelle, like they knew something. But still, that doesn't excuse extending him lol. I actually thought this would end up being an equal deal after watching Andrew Miller and Cam Maybin (who's first career homer came off Roger Clemens), they still have time but wow seems like they should have made more of an impact by now.Wolverines Wings Same Old Lions Tigers Pistons Erika ChristensenComment
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No, that's called selection bias. You have to look at overall games played, and as your next point indicates, Bay isn't even with the Red Sox any more.
218 games played for Bay with the Red vs. 200 games played for Ramirez with the Dodgers. Not alot of difference there.
Good at best?
That's an absurd thing to say.
Again, a year and 1/3 of a pretty good left-fielder vs. Ramirez's .323/.434/.582, 171 OPS+ line.
This isn't even debatable. Boston clearly downgraded from LF in that trade.MLB-NY Yankees
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First of all, I looked at both over all played. Second of all, the difference is CLEARLY in the 18 games. And yes, good at best. Obviously the numbers he put up are largely increased because HE PLAYED LESS GAMES. Your arguement is pathetic due to the fact that you keep stating the same info even though I explained why the numbers are so high. I'm sure your rebuttal will be just as "informative". Just give it up. Like you said it isn't even debatable. Also, if you even know a little bit of about baseball, you'd know that the 18 games are what make the difference. So don't waste my time with long, tedious and ignorant answers if you aren't going to make a valid point. DONE.
If you're going to call someone out for ignorance, make sure that you know what you're talking about yourself. Your numbers were phony.Last edited by Chip Douglass; 08-07-2010, 02:22 AM.I write things on the Internet.
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And a line of .323/.434/.582 is merely good?
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Originally posted by MiA's FinestYou were PARTIALLY right and I give you props.
My bad, I did sort of take it a little too seriously.
You're not required to agree with me, but I just wanted to know what the basis behind your opinion was. We'll just agree to disagree.
I'll make sure to get the numbers right myself next time, since I mixed up the amount of games played between Man-Ram/Bay.I write things on the Internet.
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Alright. Agreed.MLB-NY Yankees
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Maybe not on the level of some of the others but
To Yanks:
Nick Swisher
Kanekoa Texeira
To CWS:
Wilson Betemit
Jeff Marquez
Jhonny Nunez
Swisher has a 137 OPS+ since and, even though he was lost to Rule 5, Texeira has been a serviceable reliever this year. Betemit played 20 games for Chicago and Marquez and Nunez have done nothing.Comment
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Maybe not on the level of some of the others but
To Yanks:
Nick Swisher
Kanekoa Texeira
To CWS:
Wilson Betemit
Jeff Marquez
Jhonny Nunez
Swisher has a 137 OPS+ since and, even though he was lost to Rule 5, Texeira has been a serviceable reliever this year. Betemit played 20 games for Chicago and Marquez and Nunez have done nothing.Comment
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That was my bad they didn't get Brantley in that deal it was LaPorta and he is the Indians starting first baseman of the future. It wasn't a terrible deal considering LaPorta is much better then what they would have gotten with the draft pick compensations and he had more experience then any draft pick would.
However, the worst was easily Cliff Lee for a bucket of liquid hot crap from the Phillies.
Carlos Carrasco is a below average pitcher, Lou Marson is a backup at best, Jason Donald is a utility player and Knapp is damaged goods in the midst of a rehab.
Yeah, real good Shap. Let's not forget Lee was traded for Halladay and Smoak the next year...Too Old To Game Club
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How exactly was this a bad trade?Comment
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