Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

[GCrusher23]

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Come back when you can make a contribution. Instead of shaking your head at reality and intelligence, provide some proof why rbis are the key to the MVP. Actually, since you can't provide proof as to why rbis get you the MVP, just don't come back.

[MuffinMcFluffin]

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Another stat to look at if you are looking at RBI's... average with runners in scoring position (ARSP).

[MuffinMcFluffin]

Re: Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

Another stat to look at if you are looking at RBI's... average with runners in scoring position (ARSP).

[MuffinMcFluffin]

Re: Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

Another stat to look at if you are looking at RBI's... average with runners in scoring position (ARSP).

[GCrusher23]

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If you are going to look at rbis, you should look at the Number of RBIS to Number of RBI chances ratio. If a guy has 100 rbis out of 250 rbi chances, and another guy has 50 rbis in 70 rbi chances, then it's obvious who is better. Unfortunately, I have no idea where to find this statistic.

[GCrusher23]

Re: Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

If you are going to look at rbis, you should look at the Number of RBIS to Number of RBI chances ratio. If a guy has 100 rbis out of 250 rbi chances, and another guy has 50 rbis in 70 rbi chances, then it's obvious who is better. Unfortunately, I have no idea where to find this statistic.

[GCrusher23]

Re: Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

If you are going to look at rbis, you should look at the Number of RBIS to Number of RBI chances ratio. If a guy has 100 rbis out of 250 rbi chances, and another guy has 50 rbis in 70 rbi chances, then it's obvious who is better. Unfortunately, I have no idea where to find this statistic.

[Karlos05]

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MuffinMcFluffin said:


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You sure have being using that graemlin alot lately

[Karlos05]

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MuffinMcFluffin said:


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You sure have being using that graemlin alot lately

[Karlos05]

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You sure have being using that graemlin alot lately

[MuffinMcFluffin]

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MuffinMcFluffin said:


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You sure have being using that graemlin alot lately

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[MuffinMcFluffin]

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MuffinMcFluffin said:


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You sure have being using that graemlin alot lately

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[MuffinMcFluffin]

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You sure have being using that graemlin alot lately

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[AI_Franchise03]

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Mr_October said:

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/stats/mlb_sortable_player_stats.jsp?

If you would like to see for your self. Pujols has Bonds beat plain and simple.

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Um, I'd like to know what stats you're looking at, because from what I can tell Bonds has Pujols beaten in every important category: OBP, slugging, and of course OPS because of OBP and slugging. I'm assuming that you're talking about RBIs, runs, hits, average.. these are meaningless statistics because they're situational.

Pujols has as much of a chance at the MVP as Sheffield.

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Mr_October said:

Um, I'd like to know what stats you're looking at, because from what I can tell Bonds has Pujols beaten in every important category: OBP, slugging, and of course OPS because of OBP and slugging. I'm assuming that you're talking about RBIs, runs, hits, average.. these are meaningless statistics because they're situational.


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Ok. Let me get this straight.
AVG, runs, and hits are situational. Please explain.
A hit is a hit, and a run is a run. I mean you won't get a run easy. Nobody is going to walk a guy when the base is loaded. Runs% on PB's are low. It doesn't matter what the situation is, and hitting more increases your average. Perhaps we should throw them out because they're not "important" when evaluating a player.

Now I personally think Runs are just as important as any other stat. You need to score some runs.

You disregard hits, runs, RBI, average, yet you acknowledge SLG and OBP. SLG = you have to get a hit. The more TBs, the better. But how can that be? You said a hit is meaningless.
Next is OBP. You have to get on base in some possible way. Which this case brings up the hits, and AVG once again, and runs. You have to get on base to score a run. I feel it's pointless to get on base, if you're not going to come around to score. I don't think it makes that big of a difference to a pitcher when he's focused.

[AI_Franchise03]

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Mr_October said:

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/stats/mlb_sortable_player_stats.jsp?

If you would like to see for your self. Pujols has Bonds beat plain and simple.

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Um, I'd like to know what stats you're looking at, because from what I can tell Bonds has Pujols beaten in every important category: OBP, slugging, and of course OPS because of OBP and slugging. I'm assuming that you're talking about RBIs, runs, hits, average.. these are meaningless statistics because they're situational.

Pujols has as much of a chance at the MVP as Sheffield.

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Mr_October said:

Um, I'd like to know what stats you're looking at, because from what I can tell Bonds has Pujols beaten in every important category: OBP, slugging, and of course OPS because of OBP and slugging. I'm assuming that you're talking about RBIs, runs, hits, average.. these are meaningless statistics because they're situational.


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Ok. Let me get this straight.
AVG, runs, and hits are situational. Please explain.
A hit is a hit, and a run is a run. I mean you won't get a run easy. Nobody is going to walk a guy when the base is loaded. Runs% on PB's are low. It doesn't matter what the situation is, and hitting more increases your average. Perhaps we should throw them out because they're not "important" when evaluating a player.

Now I personally think Runs are just as important as any other stat. You need to score some runs.

You disregard hits, runs, RBI, average, yet you acknowledge SLG and OBP. SLG = you have to get a hit. The more TBs, the better. But how can that be? You said a hit is meaningless.
Next is OBP. You have to get on base in some possible way. Which this case brings up the hits, and AVG once again, and runs. You have to get on base to score a run. I feel it's pointless to get on base, if you're not going to come around to score. I don't think it makes that big of a difference to a pitcher when he's focused.