Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

**rdawsoniii** · 08-21-2003, 06:38 PM

Re: Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

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I'm assuming that you're talking about RBIs, runs, hits, average.. these are meaningless statistics

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Meaningless??????? I've heard some dumb remarks in my time, but this one ranks right up there.

Who needs RBI's and runs anyway? It's not like the team with the most runs wins. Everybody know the team with the highest slugging and on-base percentages wins the game.

**GCrusher23** · 08-21-2003, 06:47 PM

Re: Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

What is this amateur night? I think I'm going to stick with BBSC for a while until this board learns to think before they speak. Is it fair that Pujols has more chances at getting rbis and Bonds? No. Is it fair that Bonds gets on base 50% of the time and Pujosl gets on 43% of the time? Yes, because it's entirely based on the hitter. Rbis and runs are based on who's in front of you and who's behind you in the order. Ok, so they're not meaningless, but they are much, much less meaningful than OPS.

**GCrusher23** · 08-21-2003, 06:47 PM

Re: Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

What is this amateur night? I think I'm going to stick with BBSC for a while until this board learns to think before they speak. Is it fair that Pujols has more chances at getting rbis and Bonds? No. Is it fair that Bonds gets on base 50% of the time and Pujosl gets on 43% of the time? Yes, because it's entirely based on the hitter. Rbis and runs are based on who's in front of you and who's behind you in the order. Ok, so they're not meaningless, but they are much, much less meaningful than OPS.

**GCrusher23** · 08-21-2003, 06:47 PM

Re: Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

What is this amateur night? I think I'm going to stick with BBSC for a while until this board learns to think before they speak. Is it fair that Pujols has more chances at getting rbis and Bonds? No. Is it fair that Bonds gets on base 50% of the time and Pujosl gets on 43% of the time? Yes, because it's entirely based on the hitter. Rbis and runs are based on who's in front of you and who's behind you in the order. Ok, so they're not meaningless, but they are much, much less meaningful than OPS.

**MuffinMcFluffin** · 08-21-2003, 07:02 PM

Re: Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

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rdawsoniii said:
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I'm assuming that you're talking about RBIs, runs, hits, average.. these are meaningless statistics

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Meaningless??????? I've heard some dumb remarks in my time, but this one ranks right up there.

Who needs RBI's and runs anyway? It's not like the team with the most runs wins. Everybody know the team with the highest slugging and on-base percentages wins the game.

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Actually, his post made a whole lot of sense... I mean, it really is situational... that's why Bonds doesn't get the RBI's he can, just like last night... 1st and 3rd, they intentionally walk him. Bonds has a great chance to drive in a run, but ACCORDING to the situation, he gets walked instead of getting a chance to hit. In Bonds's situations, he gets pitched around and walked when runners are in scoring position... that's another reason he doesn't have many RBI's, because they only really pitch to him when no runners are on, and that's when he gets his homeruns. Pujols on the other hand gets pitched to and yeah.

He's totally right about which stats REALLY matter most and which stats can mean fluff in some circumstances.

**MuffinMcFluffin** · 08-21-2003, 07:02 PM

Re: Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

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rdawsoniii said:
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I'm assuming that you're talking about RBIs, runs, hits, average.. these are meaningless statistics

<hr /></blockquote>

Meaningless??????? I've heard some dumb remarks in my time, but this one ranks right up there.

Who needs RBI's and runs anyway? It's not like the team with the most runs wins. Everybody know the team with the highest slugging and on-base percentages wins the game.

<hr /></blockquote>

Actually, his post made a whole lot of sense... I mean, it really is situational... that's why Bonds doesn't get the RBI's he can, just like last night... 1st and 3rd, they intentionally walk him. Bonds has a great chance to drive in a run, but ACCORDING to the situation, he gets walked instead of getting a chance to hit. In Bonds's situations, he gets pitched around and walked when runners are in scoring position... that's another reason he doesn't have many RBI's, because they only really pitch to him when no runners are on, and that's when he gets his homeruns. Pujols on the other hand gets pitched to and yeah.

He's totally right about which stats REALLY matter most and which stats can mean fluff in some circumstances.

**MuffinMcFluffin** · 08-21-2003, 07:02 PM

Re: Barry Bonds clinches the MVP

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rdawsoniii said:
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I'm assuming that you're talking about RBIs, runs, hits, average.. these are meaningless statistics

<hr /></blockquote>

Meaningless??????? I've heard some dumb remarks in my time, but this one ranks right up there.

Who needs RBI's and runs anyway? It's not like the team with the most runs wins. Everybody know the team with the highest slugging and on-base percentages wins the game.

<hr /></blockquote>

Actually, his post made a whole lot of sense... I mean, it really is situational... that's why Bonds doesn't get the RBI's he can, just like last night... 1st and 3rd, they intentionally walk him. Bonds has a great chance to drive in a run, but ACCORDING to the situation, he gets walked instead of getting a chance to hit. In Bonds's situations, he gets pitched around and walked when runners are in scoring position... that's another reason he doesn't have many RBI's, because they only really pitch to him when no runners are on, and that's when he gets his homeruns. Pujols on the other hand gets pitched to and yeah.

He's totally right about which stats REALLY matter most and which stats can mean fluff in some circumstances.

**rdawsoniii** · 08-21-2003, 07:40 PM