What is all the BS I'm hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY??

**AI_Franchise03** · 09-19-2003, 07:32 PM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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YankeePride_YP said:

And no, he probably won't win ROY. And yes, it'll be fun watching the yankee fans whine about the empty space on the shelf where the ROY award could be.

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I won't whine IF we win the championship this year. I'll happily accept a team award, rather than an individual.

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**dce1228** · 09-19-2003, 07:50 PM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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AI_Franchise03 said:
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dce1228 said:
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YankeePride_YP said:

And no, he probably won't win ROY. And yes, it'll be fun watching the yankee fans whine about the empty space on the shelf where the ROY award could be.

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I won't whine IF we win the championship this year. I'll happily accept a team award, rather than an individual.

{hey my fave emoticon is back)

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Man, AI, learn to use the quote function. You're making it read like I said that crap about the yanks winning the WS. That's just wrong. If you're trying to push my buttons you're succeeding.

Now it's probably specifying that you're saying this. I'll speak for you. Matsui doesn't deserve the ROY award. Jody Gerut does.

**dce1228** · 09-19-2003, 07:50 PM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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AI_Franchise03 said:
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dce1228 said:
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YankeePride_YP said:

And no, he probably won't win ROY. And yes, it'll be fun watching the yankee fans whine about the empty space on the shelf where the ROY award could be.

<hr /></blockquote>

I won't whine IF we win the championship this year. I'll happily accept a team award, rather than an individual.

{hey my fave emoticon is back)

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Man, AI, learn to use the quote function. You're making it read like I said that crap about the yanks winning the WS. That's just wrong. If you're trying to push my buttons you're succeeding.

Now it's probably specifying that you're saying this. I'll speak for you. Matsui doesn't deserve the ROY award. Jody Gerut does.

**dce1228** · 09-19-2003, 07:50 PM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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AI_Franchise03 said:
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dce1228 said:
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YankeePride_YP said:

And no, he probably won't win ROY. And yes, it'll be fun watching the yankee fans whine about the empty space on the shelf where the ROY award could be.

<hr /></blockquote>

I won't whine IF we win the championship this year. I'll happily accept a team award, rather than an individual.

{hey my fave emoticon is back)

<hr /></blockquote>

Man, AI, learn to use the quote function. You're making it read like I said that crap about the yanks winning the WS. That's just wrong. If you're trying to push my buttons you're succeeding.

Now it's probably specifying that you're saying this. I'll speak for you. Matsui doesn't deserve the ROY award. Jody Gerut does.

**AI_Franchise03** · 09-19-2003, 07:56 PM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

Look who's talking. Check out your reply, and your smart "quoting" abilities.

**AI_Franchise03** · 09-19-2003, 07:56 PM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

Look who's talking. Check out your reply, and your smart "quoting" abilities.

**AI_Franchise03** · 09-19-2003, 07:56 PM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

Look who's talking. Check out your reply, and your smart "quoting" abilities.

**dce1228** · 09-19-2003, 09:50 PM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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AI_Franchise03 said:
Look who's talking. Check out your reply, and your smart "quoting" abilities.

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Man, that just went right over your head, didn't it?... wow.

**dce1228** · 09-19-2003, 09:50 PM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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AI_Franchise03 said:
Look who's talking. Check out your reply, and your smart "quoting" abilities.

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Man, that just went right over your head, didn't it?... wow.

**dce1228** · 09-19-2003, 09:50 PM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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AI_Franchise03 said:
Look who's talking. Check out your reply, and your smart "quoting" abilities.

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Man, that just went right over your head, didn't it?... wow.

**CMH** · 09-20-2003, 12:46 AM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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dce1228 said:

Why do I get the sinking suspicion you've never seen Ichiro play, much less on a regular basis. No one in baseball wins games in as many different fashions. It's not coincidental that the Mariners' fall has coincided with an Ichiro slump. No knocking Bret Boone, but Ichiro is awesome.

And yes, when he won ROY his numbers were astronomically better than any other rookie. And no, Matsui's aren't. And no, he probably won't win ROY. And yes, it'll be fun watching the yankee fans whine about the empty space on the shelf where the ROY award could be.

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I've seen enough of Ichiro and my opinion is that he isn't as good as people make him out to be. He doesn't change the game. All he does is hit for average. Yes, that is a good thing, but that is all. (Keep in mind that I think HIGHLY of walks. SO if you don't walk, I'm not very fond of you. So I may be a bit biased in my opinion here. But, it's not Yankee bias).

I don't think Matsui should win ROY. I just think he will win because of the media attention. Ichiro benefited from media attention. All he had was over 200 hits and a very good batting average. Is that necessarily astronomically better than other rookies? Last time I checked, Sabathia was one of the most impressive pitchers in the AL that very same year.

I know it sounds weird that i'm downplaying average and hits. But, in my opinion there are more important things in the game. I guess, what i'm sayin is that if you are gonn abe the most influential player in baseball than you should be doin more than hitting for average.

Bonds is the most influential player in the game because he does it all. He can steal a base on ya. He can field well. He can hit for power. He walks. He hits for average. He forces pitchers/managers to change their strategy.

I just don't think Ichiro forces all that. He is indeed a fine player. But, not the best player in baseball. He is heavily overrated. And he definitely did not deserve MVP in his rookie year.

**CMH** · 09-20-2003, 12:46 AM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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dce1228 said:

Why do I get the sinking suspicion you've never seen Ichiro play, much less on a regular basis. No one in baseball wins games in as many different fashions. It's not coincidental that the Mariners' fall has coincided with an Ichiro slump. No knocking Bret Boone, but Ichiro is awesome.

And yes, when he won ROY his numbers were astronomically better than any other rookie. And no, Matsui's aren't. And no, he probably won't win ROY. And yes, it'll be fun watching the yankee fans whine about the empty space on the shelf where the ROY award could be.

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I've seen enough of Ichiro and my opinion is that he isn't as good as people make him out to be. He doesn't change the game. All he does is hit for average. Yes, that is a good thing, but that is all. (Keep in mind that I think HIGHLY of walks. SO if you don't walk, I'm not very fond of you. So I may be a bit biased in my opinion here. But, it's not Yankee bias).

I don't think Matsui should win ROY. I just think he will win because of the media attention. Ichiro benefited from media attention. All he had was over 200 hits and a very good batting average. Is that necessarily astronomically better than other rookies? Last time I checked, Sabathia was one of the most impressive pitchers in the AL that very same year.

I know it sounds weird that i'm downplaying average and hits. But, in my opinion there are more important things in the game. I guess, what i'm sayin is that if you are gonn abe the most influential player in baseball than you should be doin more than hitting for average.

Bonds is the most influential player in the game because he does it all. He can steal a base on ya. He can field well. He can hit for power. He walks. He hits for average. He forces pitchers/managers to change their strategy.

I just don't think Ichiro forces all that. He is indeed a fine player. But, not the best player in baseball. He is heavily overrated. And he definitely did not deserve MVP in his rookie year.

**CMH** · 09-20-2003, 12:46 AM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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dce1228 said:

Why do I get the sinking suspicion you've never seen Ichiro play, much less on a regular basis. No one in baseball wins games in as many different fashions. It's not coincidental that the Mariners' fall has coincided with an Ichiro slump. No knocking Bret Boone, but Ichiro is awesome.

And yes, when he won ROY his numbers were astronomically better than any other rookie. And no, Matsui's aren't. And no, he probably won't win ROY. And yes, it'll be fun watching the yankee fans whine about the empty space on the shelf where the ROY award could be.

<hr /></blockquote>

I've seen enough of Ichiro and my opinion is that he isn't as good as people make him out to be. He doesn't change the game. All he does is hit for average. Yes, that is a good thing, but that is all. (Keep in mind that I think HIGHLY of walks. SO if you don't walk, I'm not very fond of you. So I may be a bit biased in my opinion here. But, it's not Yankee bias).

I don't think Matsui should win ROY. I just think he will win because of the media attention. Ichiro benefited from media attention. All he had was over 200 hits and a very good batting average. Is that necessarily astronomically better than other rookies? Last time I checked, Sabathia was one of the most impressive pitchers in the AL that very same year.

I know it sounds weird that i'm downplaying average and hits. But, in my opinion there are more important things in the game. I guess, what i'm sayin is that if you are gonn abe the most influential player in baseball than you should be doin more than hitting for average.

Bonds is the most influential player in the game because he does it all. He can steal a base on ya. He can field well. He can hit for power. He walks. He hits for average. He forces pitchers/managers to change their strategy.

I just don't think Ichiro forces all that. He is indeed a fine player. But, not the best player in baseball. He is heavily overrated. And he definitely did not deserve MVP in his rookie year.

**AI_Franchise03** · 09-20-2003, 10:40 AM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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dce1228 said:
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AI_Franchise03 said:
Look who's talking. Check out your reply, and your smart "quoting" abilities.

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Man, that just went right over your head, didn't it?... wow.

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Did you add this in at the last sec? <blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Now it's probably specifying that you're saying this. I'll speak for you.

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Didn't remember reading that.

**AI_Franchise03** · 09-20-2003, 10:40 AM

Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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dce1228 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
AI_Franchise03 said:
Look who's talking. Check out your reply, and your smart "quoting" abilities.

<hr /></blockquote>

Man, that just went right over your head, didn't it?... wow.

<hr /></blockquote>

Did you add this in at the last sec? <blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Now it's probably specifying that you're saying this. I'll speak for you.

<hr /></blockquote>

Didn't remember reading that.

What is all the BS I'm hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY??

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