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  • shifty_b
    Rookie
    • Mar 2011
    • 189

    #31
    Originally posted by 55
    Felix Hernandez has never pitched in a single postseason game in his entire career (and he won't anytime soon if he remains in Seattle) so I don't know you can say that with such confidence.
    You can't know for sure until it happens, but I think most people would have confidence in him (assuming the team he is on scores runs for him). Unless he gets traded, as others have mentioned, or the Mariners suddenly become contenders this will remain purely hypothetical anyways.

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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #32
      Re: Felix Hernandez

      Originally posted by 55
      Felix Hernandez has never pitched in a single postseason game in his entire career (and he won't anytime soon if he remains in Seattle) so I don't know you can say that with such confidence.
      What does him not being in the playoffs before have to do with him pitching a game in the playoffs?

      He has the talent and the skill. If you had to choose between Felix Hernandez and Fausto Carmona, you'd go with Carmona because he has 15 Playoff innings in his resume?
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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      • WazzuRC
        Go Cougs!
        • Dec 2002
        • 5617

        #33
        Re: Felix Hernandez

        Originally posted by 55
        Felix Hernandez has never pitched in a single postseason game in his entire career (and he won't anytime soon if he remains in Seattle) so I don't know you can say that with such confidence.
        You wouldn't have taken Roy Halladay in a Game 7 pre-2010?

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        • 55
          Banned
          • Mar 2006
          • 20857

          #34
          Re: Felix Hernandez

          Originally posted by CMH
          What does him not being in the playoffs before have to do with him pitching a game in the playoffs?

          He has the talent and the skill. If you had to choose between Felix Hernandez and Fausto Carmona, you'd go with Carmona because he has 15 Playoff innings in his resume?
          You're cherry picking to the extreme on this one, as Carmona is obviously not in the same class of pitchers as anyone else we have mentioned in this thread.

          Originally posted by WazzuRC
          You wouldn't have taken Roy Halladay in a Game 7 pre-2010?
          It depends on who the other choices were. For instance, Halladay is obviously a better pitcher than Andy Pettite was, but before last season I certainly would have rather had Pettite taking the hill for my team in a Game 7.

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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #35
            Re: Felix Hernandez

            Originally posted by 55
            You're cherry picking to the extreme on this one, as Carmona is obviously not in the same class of pitchers as anyone else we have mentioned in this thread.
            I am cherry picking because you are. You're saying there's such a thing as playoff experience like it matters. You play baseball and the games are decided the same way no matter the date on the calendar.
            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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            • Claymaker52
              Banned
              • Feb 2011
              • 419

              #36
              Re: Felix Hernandez

              Originally posted by Apostle
              Best starting pitcher in the game?

              I'm biased, but if I needed a win, he's the guy I'm sending to the hill.

              Two straight sub 2.5 ERA seasons in the AL, and is still only 24. It's crazy to think that this is his SEVENTH season.

              I'm not going to say he's better than Halladay, Lee, Lincecum yet... I'm just asking the question...
              He is clearly better than Lincecum, who will start to break down any year now.

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              • ImTellinTim
                YNWA
                • Sep 2006
                • 33028

                #37
                Re: Felix Hernandez

                Originally posted by Claymaker52
                He is clearly better than Lincecum, who will start to break down any year now.
                Stop it, seriously.

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                • Kobalt
                  All Star
                  • May 2010
                  • 9674

                  #38
                  Re: Felix Hernandez

                  Originally posted by Claymaker52
                  He is clearly better than Lincecum, who will start to break down any year now.
                  And your evidence is?

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                  • Claymaker52
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 419

                    #39
                    Re: Felix Hernandez

                    Originally posted by Kobalt
                    And your evidence is?
                    His pitching motion will be his downfall, and he has an inverted 'W' from hell, that alone will cause him arm trouble in the future. He'll end up being another Pedro Martinez.

                    But anyways, if tonight is any indication, Felix may have passed the putrid run support batton to Michael Pineda as part of annual rookie hazing, so expect King Felix's run support to sky rocket to around 3 runs per game. Which means around 5 or 6 more wins than last year , poor Pineda, who wil have a sub 3 ERA with around 6 wins to show for it.
                    Last edited by Claymaker52; 04-05-2011, 11:09 PM.

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                    • TheMatrix31
                      RF
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 52920

                      #40
                      Re: Felix Hernandez

                      Originally posted by Claymaker52
                      His pitching motion, will be his downfall, and he has an inverted 'W' from hell, that alone will cause him arm trouble in the future. He'll end up being another Pedro Martinez.
                      Yeah, "another" one of the best pitchers of all-time.

                      God forbid.

                      Seriously, stop embarrassing yourself.

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                      • Claymaker52
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 419

                        #41
                        Re: Felix Hernandez

                        I'm just saying, I'm not convinced Lincecum will remain healthy for a long period of time. His motion increases these odds. Hope I'm wrong and he never hits the DL for any length of time, but that motion just concerns me over the long road.

                        Anyways, back to the thread I think Felix, pitching in the divison he piches in should have no problem putting together his 3rd straight sub-2.5 ERA this season, and possibly even another Cy Young. I'm just glad that we as Mariners fans now have two watchable games every 5 days, welcome to the show Pineda. I still torture my self and watch the other three game for some reason though.

                        I would love to contend this year, but I know that will not happen, unless the Rangers' starting 9 all get hurt, and the Angles don't change their walk off celebrations.But I am optimistic for 2011 though, freeing up some payroll, and a full year of Ackley, and possibly SS Nick Franklin. 2011 should be a fun year.
                        Last edited by Claymaker52; 04-05-2011, 11:24 PM.

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                        • BatsareBugs
                          LVP
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 12553

                          #42
                          Re: Felix Hernandez

                          In the end, everyone's pitching motion worries me. No one is immune to arm or shoulder injuries.

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                          • TheMatrix31
                            RF
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52920

                            #43
                            Re: Felix Hernandez

                            I'm not convinced of Lincecum's motion leading to prolonged health either, but until it happens, we'll just have to accept the fact that he's probably a Top 3 or 4 pitcher in the league.

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                            • 24
                              Forever A Legend
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2809

                              #44
                              Re: Felix Hernandez

                              Felix Hernandez is an outstanding pitcher there is no doubt to that but he plays in the weakest divison in the MLB (honestly its texas then everyone else) and he is in a pitchers ballpark.

                              Pitchers Like Roy Halladay are few and far between. There have only been a select amount of pitchers that could ever take over the game like Roy can. Plus he reminds you of one of those old throwback pitchers that would do anything to get the win


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                              • Claymaker52
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 419

                                #45
                                Re: Felix Hernandez

                                Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                                I'm not convinced of Lincecum's motion leading to prolonged health either, but until it happens, we'll just have to accept the fact that he's probably a Top 3 or 4 pitcher in the league.
                                Maybe I'm just bitter that the Mariners drafted Brandon Morrow over Lincecum, who is from the Seattle area. Could you imagen that rotation, had we drafted him? Felix, Lincecum, Pineda? Ok I'll shut up now for the sake of my personal health.

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