How sad is this...

[Dog]

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Pretty unprofessional article IMO.

[kelvinmak]

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I'm pretty awful with numbers and stats (and logic, in general), but even to me it seems like the stats they chose use seemed pretty arbitrary to me.

That said, here's a pretty good rebuttal: http://musingmathematically.blogspot...s-defense.html

And I think Bautista never hit above .200 during that White Sox series before the incident occurred, so for them to yell "It's not too [f------] easy to hit home runs when you don't know what's coming!" just seems a little illogical to me.

[Dice]

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Looks like the White Sox are accusing them as well. To a point where an unnamed pitcher threaten Jose Bautista.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/7008485-417/jays-slugger-jose-bautista-says-white-sox-pitcher-threatened-him.html

[SPTO]

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Looks like the White Sox are accusing them as well. To a point where an unnamed pitcher threaten Jose Bautista.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/70084...tened-him.html

The White Sox aren't exactly the classiest organization out there. They're a bunch of douchebags.

"remembers the Mike Sirotka trade and makes a fist"

[BatsareBugs]

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It's not as sad as every umpiring crew giving the Padres the business circa 2005-2009 because a certain person was the CEO. Frustrating times.

[Sportsforever]

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It's not as sad as every umpiring crew giving the Padres the business circa 2005-2009 because a certain person was the CEO. Frustrating times.

Sandy Alderson? You really think the Pads got the short stick because of that?

[BatsareBugs]

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Sandy Alderson? You really think the Pads got the short stick because of that?

Probably not on calls, but of course with some players and coaches getting occasional remarks about Alderson when a new umpiring crew would arrive at PETCO Park. Of course it could've been hearsay, but I understand the umps attitude towards him considering how stuck up Alderson sounded in his interviews.

[Sportsforever]

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Probably not on calls, but of course with some players and coaches getting occasional remarks about Alderson when a new umpiring crew would arrive at PETCO Park. Of course it could've been hearsay, but I understand the umps attitude towards him considering how stuck up Alderson sounded in his interviews.

Yes, he did not interview well. I really like listening to Jed Hoyer interview...when Darren Smith has him on he is really candid and just seems like a down to earth guy. Sandy always sounded "smarter" than everyone else and guarded with how he came across.

[l3ulvl]

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Eventually pitchers and catchers will probably have ear pieces to get direct word from the skip. Sorta like the QB helmet in football.

[SPTO]

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Eventually pitchers and catchers will probably have ear pieces to get direct word from the skip. Sorta like the QB helmet in football.

That would take the whole strategy of the game and flush it down the toilet besides, I always like seeing a game with a veteran catcher who makes all the calls himself.

[Dog]

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Eventually pitchers and catchers will probably have ear pieces to get direct word from the skip. Sorta like the QB helmet in football.

How many coaches actually call pitches? I'd venture to say not many..

[l3ulvl]

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Sorry, was trying to be funny

[SPTO]

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How many coaches actually call pitches? I'd venture to say not many..

I think teams with young(er) catchers tend to relay the signs from the dugout. After a while if a catcher is really good at calling a game he'll be given the reins after a few years.

[p_rushing]

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I don't think any team in MLB calls the pitches from the dugout. They might call a pitch out or to walk a guy, but not each pitch.


If you are stealing signs within the field of play or dugout without help from anything, that is part of the game. If you are doing it other ways, you should be kicked out of the league.

[SPTO]

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I don't think any team in MLB calls the pitches from the dugout. They might call a pitch out or to walk a guy, but not each pitch.

Last season when Arencibia was catching (which wasn't very often) they were definitely feeding him what to call to the pitcher. I'm not sure about this year but I wouldn't be surprised if Don Wakamatsu were sending him signs at times (though not every pitch)