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  • Perfect Zero
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    • Jun 2005
    • 4012

    #1081
    Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

    Originally posted by SPTO
    Apparently the Blue Jays are done their shopping this offseason.

    I dunno, seems kinda pitiful work on AA's part if that's true (and this is coming from the horse's mouth so there's validity to the report) I can't in good conscience see a GM of a team saying that when they have the money and resources to acquire Prince Fielder who is a need for them....BAH
    It could also be a move to drive the price down for Fielder. If the Blue Jays were serious about going for Yu Darvish, then they have to be serious about another player on the market.
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    • jasontoddwhitt
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      • May 2003
      • 8095

      #1082
      Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

      Originally posted by CardsFan27
      Nice job Uncle Walt!! $8.5 million for the best closer on the market, less than Cordero made this past year, and only 16 walks in 60.2 innings.

      While Cordero cut down on the late inning walks in 2011, in the three years before that, he was as bad as David Weathers as a closer in terms of the “9th inning heart attack” factor.

      Walt has addressed the team's issues perfectly so far this offseason.
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      • BleacherBum2310
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        • Aug 2010
        • 7107

        #1083
        Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

        Originally posted by 1Rose
        Our payroll was dwindling by the second lol

        I don't know how I feel about dumping Garza. He's a good pitcher and an absolute workhorse. I'd imagine the Cubs are trying to avoid arbitration with him, but we could still have a pretty decent rotation if we keep him around.

        I don't know. Maybe just personal preference. If he goes, I just hope we get something really good in return. I haven't seen the other offers, but the Tigers deal seems to be pretty favorable for us.
        It doesn't look like there going to move him at this point. Which I'm happy about. Cubs go 6 Deep SP Wise, which is a dramatic improvement from last year. I think he'll be on the roster come opening day, they'll probably deal him at the july deadline though. IMO.
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        • jake44np
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          • Jul 2002
          • 9563

          #1084
          Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

          Originally posted by jasontoddwhitt
          Nice job Uncle Walt!! $8.5 million for the best closer on the market, less than Cordero made this past year, and only 16 walks in 60.2 innings.

          While Cordero cut down on the late inning walks in 2011, in the three years before that, he was as bad as David Weathers as a closer in terms of the “9th inning heart attack” factor.

          Walt has addressed the team's issues perfectly so far this offseason.
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          • CabreraMVP
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            • Sep 2010
            • 1437

            #1085
            Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

            Originally posted by 1Rose
            Our payroll was dwindling by the second lol

            I don't know how I feel about dumping Garza. He's a good pitcher and an absolute workhorse. I'd imagine the Cubs are trying to avoid arbitration with him, but we could still have a pretty decent rotation if we keep him around.

            I don't know. Maybe just personal preference. If he goes, I just hope we get something really good in return. I haven't seen the other offers, but the Tigers deal seems to be pretty favorable for us.
            I think Cub fans would be happy with the Tigers deal. Turner should be a good 2-3 guy, maybe not an ace, but a very good pitcher. A little better than Garza if he lives up to his potential.
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            • Buckeyes_Doc
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              • Jan 2009
              • 11918

              #1086
              Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

              Originally posted by CardsFan27
              This has been the best Reds offseason that I can remember. I love the moves they are making. I can't wait until the 2012 season.
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              • l3ulvl
                Hall Of Fame
                • Dec 2009
                • 17257

                #1087
                Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                Originally posted by CabreraMVP
                I think Cub fans would be happy with the Tigers deal. Turner should be a good 2-3 guy, maybe not an ace, but a very good pitcher. A little better than Garza if he lives up to his potential.
                From what I've heard on other sites, the current offer is Turner/Crosby for Garza. I'd do that.

                Also, on the random uncitable rumor front, some guy on a different site, possibly a lunatic, mentioned that the Tigers offered the Rays Porcello and Castellanos for Longoria. I'm guessing this guy was full of it because I can't find any mention of it whatsoever on the interwebs, but wouldn't the Rays laugh in Dombrowski's face for that?
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                • ImTellinTim
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                  • Sep 2006
                  • 33028

                  #1088
                  Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                  Originally posted by l3ulvl
                  I'm guessing this guy was full of it because I can't find any mention of it whatsoever on the interwebs, but wouldn't the Rays laugh in Dombrowski's face for that?
                  They wouldn't even react. They'd just hang up the phone thinking it was a prank call.

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                  • bhurst99
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                    • Aug 2003
                    • 9137

                    #1089
                    Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                    Originally posted by SPTO
                    Apparently the Blue Jays are done their shopping this offseason.

                    I dunno, seems kinda pitiful work on AA's part if that's true (and this is coming from the horse's mouth so there's validity to the report) I can't in good conscience see a GM of a team saying that when they have the money and resources to acquire Prince Fielder who is a need for them....BAH
                    I was actually stunned when I read that quote.

                    No one in the history of Toronto sports gets more of a free ride from the Toronto media than AA. It's like critical thinking has gone out the window when it comes to AA's moves.

                    I can't recall a more disappointing off-season than this one.

                    Basically the club has taken all the money it saved from the Wells trade and failed to re-invest it. When they dealt Wells and took back the salaries of Rivera and Napoli they couldn't wait to get rid of those two salaries. That's the only way to explain Napoli for Frank Francisco.
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                    • bhurst99
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                      • Aug 2003
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                      #1090
                      Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                      Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                      It could also be a move to drive the price down for Fielder. If the Blue Jays were serious about going for Yu Darvish, then they have to be serious about another player on the market.
                      Not a chance on Fielder. They have no interest in that kind of long-term deal. Have they ever signed one of Scott Boras' clients? Might have. I just can't recall.
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                      • SPTO
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046

                        #1091
                        Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                        Originally posted by bhurst99

                        No one in the history of Toronto sports gets more of a free ride from the Toronto media than AA. It's like critical thinking has gone out the window when it comes to AA's moves.
                        I agree with the tenor of your comments but wanted to pick up on this. I guess this belongs more in the Blue Jays thread so i'll make it quick, while AA has gotten a free ride there ARE some in the media starting to turn a critical eye on AA including Bob McCown who's a huge fan of his. AA is set to go on PTS tonight so it'll be interesting if the Bobcat actually gets tough on him or just throws softballs.
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                        • bhurst99
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                          • Aug 2003
                          • 9137

                          #1092
                          Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                          Originally posted by SPTO
                          I agree with the tenor of your comments but wanted to pick up on this. I guess this belongs more in the Blue Jays thread so i'll make it quick, while AA has gotten a free ride there ARE some in the media starting to turn a critical eye on AA including Bob McCown who's a huge fan of his. AA is set to go on PTS tonight so it'll be interesting if the Bobcat actually gets tough on him or just throws softballs.
                          I agree with you 100 per cent about the McCowan comment. He's one of the few who has been critical. Steve Simmons has been critical at times as well.
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                          • DrJones
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                            • Mar 2003
                            • 9113

                            #1093
                            Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                            I'd be in full agreement with the AA bashing IF I believed that Rogers was giving him a blank check to spend on players. I don't. I think the Jays are on a tight budget (likely related to Rogers' purchase of MLSE), and AA can't exactly go on McCown's show and call Rogers cheapskates now, can he?
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                            • bhurst99
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                              • Aug 2003
                              • 9137

                              #1094
                              Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                              Originally posted by DrJones
                              I'd be in full agreement with the AA bashing IF I believed that Rogers was giving him a blank check to spend on players. I don't. I think the Jays are on a tight budget (likely related to Rogers' purchase of MLSE), and AA can't exactly go on McCown's show and call Rogers cheapskates now, can he?
                              I agree with you that they're on a tight budget but I don't think it's related to MLSE. I think it's more related to the Jays revenue. If the Rogers didn't purchase MLSE, I don't think there would be more funds for the Jays.

                              But even on a tight budget, I expected more this off-season. They had a lot of needs going into this off-season (another starter, another bat to protect Jose) and the only one they addressed was a closer.
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                              • Mo
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                                • May 2003
                                • 11425

                                #1095
                                Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

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