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  • dce1228
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 1016

    #106
    Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

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    AI_Franchise03 said:
    Beltran's also selfish from what I have heard. Has been labeled that by his teammates. Not only that but it will cost us MUCH MUCH more to resign Beltran than it would to sign Alfonso. With the money we'll have to spend on resigning Beltran, we could use that money on another good OF. It's not hard to find a good OF, like it is to find a great 2ND basemen, like that of Sori's caliber. I have read that he had the most productive seasons for a 2B last year, and this year.

    All Sori needs is some discipline, and pitch recognition, which he will get as he's maturing. We have great talent on our hands, especially for a 2B. He's already part of the 35-35, and 30-30 clubs, and has a shot in the future of 50-50. This season is rather similar to his last season, in which he had a breakout year, and that is saying a lot considering he had a poor season after starting off MARVELOUSLY! Seems like most of our players had a poor year offensively.

    So lik I said, eveything will come to Sori as progresses. His defense right now is average, but will improve. He has great range and has made some great plays during the coarse of the season. He's still young, and giving up on him now is like giving up on Weaver, which many of us Yankees' fans have with the exception of me. I want to keep Weaver and Soriano, because these guys have great upsides, which a certain coach has to utilize.
    Heck, if we did put him on the block, we would get helluva better offers than the one Royals offered.

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    I'm confused about how Beltran would cost that much more than Soriano. As you said, Soriano's production at second is better than all the others in baseball. I would assume that would warrant a pretty massive paycheck.

    I don't know Beltran personally so I don't know if he has an attitude problem. I do know the guy has one of the best SB% in the game, and took almost as many walks as Ks last season-- which is a clear mark of maturity and intellegence. Watching Soriano wave at more and more sliders in the dirt makes you wonder if he ever will mature. It's not a given that he will. I mean, look at Shawon Dunston. He waved at pitches in 2002 the same way he did in 1986. I'm of the opinion that Soriano will never have a better season than he did last year. I just don't think he's a player.

    It's good to hear support for Weaver coming from a Yankee fan though. You're wise to know how huge Weaver could be if he just relaxed and did what he was capable of. Unfortunately, you're in the minority in this case. The ownership and large part of the fanship will never let Weaver relax and do what he's capable of.

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    • AI_Franchise03
      MVP
      • Dec 2002
      • 2168

      #107
      Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

      I could vision Sori signing a long term deal in the figures of around $5/6 mill with some options. When Beltran hits the market, which is after next season, he'll be getting 10 million more.
      " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
      - Lavar Arrington on his new Redskins teammate Sean Taylor.

      The World Is At Your Feet.

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      • AI_Franchise03
        MVP
        • Dec 2002
        • 2168

        #108
        Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

        I could vision Sori signing a long term deal in the figures of around $5/6 mill with some options. When Beltran hits the market, which is after next season, he'll be getting 10 million more.
        " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
        - Lavar Arrington on his new Redskins teammate Sean Taylor.

        The World Is At Your Feet.

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        • AI_Franchise03
          MVP
          • Dec 2002
          • 2168

          #109
          Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

          I could vision Sori signing a long term deal in the figures of around $5/6 mill with some options. When Beltran hits the market, which is after next season, he'll be getting 10 million more.
          " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
          - Lavar Arrington on his new Redskins teammate Sean Taylor.

          The World Is At Your Feet.

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          • NYJets
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 18637

            #110
            Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

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            AI_Franchise03 said:
            I could vision Sori signing a long term deal in the figures of around $5/6 mill with some options. When Beltran hits the market, which is after next season, he'll be getting 10 million more.

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            When's Soriano a free agent? Right now, I say he gets more than that, and if he does improve by the time he is a free agent he will want waaaaaay more than that.

            With the Yankees though, it doesn't really matter.
            Originally posted by Jay Bilas
            The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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            • NYJets
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 18637

              #111
              Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

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              AI_Franchise03 said:
              I could vision Sori signing a long term deal in the figures of around $5/6 mill with some options. When Beltran hits the market, which is after next season, he'll be getting 10 million more.

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              When's Soriano a free agent? Right now, I say he gets more than that, and if he does improve by the time he is a free agent he will want waaaaaay more than that.

              With the Yankees though, it doesn't really matter.
              Originally posted by Jay Bilas
              The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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              • NYJets
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 18637

                #112
                Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

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                AI_Franchise03 said:
                I could vision Sori signing a long term deal in the figures of around $5/6 mill with some options. When Beltran hits the market, which is after next season, he'll be getting 10 million more.

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                When's Soriano a free agent? Right now, I say he gets more than that, and if he does improve by the time he is a free agent he will want waaaaaay more than that.

                With the Yankees though, it doesn't really matter.
                Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                • AI_Franchise03
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 2168

                  #113
                  Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

                  No, I think that is right up his alley. When he hits FA, he'll ask for more, but now, he doesn't need to see market type numbers.
                  " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
                  - Lavar Arrington on his new Redskins teammate Sean Taylor.

                  The World Is At Your Feet.

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                  • AI_Franchise03
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 2168

                    #114
                    Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

                    No, I think that is right up his alley. When he hits FA, he'll ask for more, but now, he doesn't need to see market type numbers.
                    " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
                    - Lavar Arrington on his new Redskins teammate Sean Taylor.

                    The World Is At Your Feet.

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                    • AI_Franchise03
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 2168

                      #115
                      Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

                      No, I think that is right up his alley. When he hits FA, he'll ask for more, but now, he doesn't need to see market type numbers.
                      " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
                      - Lavar Arrington on his new Redskins teammate Sean Taylor.

                      The World Is At Your Feet.

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                      • dce1228
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1016

                        #116
                        Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

                        By the time Soriano is a FA he'll of had 4 consecutively worse seasons, be playing left-field for the Pirates and still the Mets will be there to give him an 8 million a year contract.

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                        • dce1228
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1016

                          #117
                          Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

                          By the time Soriano is a FA he'll of had 4 consecutively worse seasons, be playing left-field for the Pirates and still the Mets will be there to give him an 8 million a year contract.

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                          • dce1228
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 1016

                            #118
                            Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

                            By the time Soriano is a FA he'll of had 4 consecutively worse seasons, be playing left-field for the Pirates and still the Mets will be there to give him an 8 million a year contract.

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                            • PdiddyPop
                              K*ngs *f th* D*nc*!
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 21768

                              #119
                              Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

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                              PdiddyPop said:
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                              mickj said:
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                              ea but in no other sport would u see that. say like a guy avg 30 pts a game in oct in the nba. u wouldnt ever see him avg 5 pts in april and on the end of the bench.

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                              Ummm.... Tony Parker?

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                              when did tony parker avg 30 pts and lead the league in scoring? if he did i must have missed something.

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                              But Tony did struggle in the playoffs, and couldn't do anything with Marbury.

                              We'll will get to witness exactly that with KVH possibly this season or in the next 3 years, but off course first he'll will have to average 30 points a night, or even one night.

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                              sadly AI i would hope to see KVH score 30 pts all season
                              President of the Devils Den
                              (2009 Pre-Season NIT Champs/2010 ACC Co Reg Season/ACC Tournament/South Regional Champs/National Champs)

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                              • PdiddyPop
                                K*ngs *f th* D*nc*!
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 21768

                                #120
                                Re: Can someone please teach Soriano the Strike Zone?

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                                AI_Franchise03 said:
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                                PdiddyPop said:
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                                mickj said:
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                                ea but in no other sport would u see that. say like a guy avg 30 pts a game in oct in the nba. u wouldnt ever see him avg 5 pts in april and on the end of the bench.

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                Ummm.... Tony Parker?

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                when did tony parker avg 30 pts and lead the league in scoring? if he did i must have missed something.

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                But Tony did struggle in the playoffs, and couldn't do anything with Marbury.

                                We'll will get to witness exactly that with KVH possibly this season or in the next 3 years, but off course first he'll will have to average 30 points a night, or even one night.

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                sadly AI i would hope to see KVH score 30 pts all season
                                President of the Devils Den
                                (2009 Pre-Season NIT Champs/2010 ACC Co Reg Season/ACC Tournament/South Regional Champs/National Champs)

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