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2-1 there chief. They lost the first game to Boston on Thursday.

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I didn't see that score I guess

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I didn't see that score I guess

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I didn't see that score I guess

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<font color="red">I thought I'd bring back the Twins thread with this article I found at startribune.com:</font>
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Trading Restovich would help Twins
Jim Souhan
June 2, 2004 INSI02




If you hadn't seen him with your own eyes, you would have suspected Michael Restovich to be the fictional creation of an overzealous Twins marketer.

Combining the bulk of Bronko Nagurski with the manners of a butler, the Rochester native turned down a career at Notre Dame to make his way through the minor-league system of his homestate team.

Part Paul Bunyan, part Kent Hrbek, Restovich was Joe Mauer before Mauer even enrolled at Cretin-Derham Hall High -- a budding local hero, sure to one day see his face plastered on the white tent in the Metrodome outfield.

It hasn't happened.

It might never happen.

That's why the Twins should trade outfielder Restovich, one of their top prospects, for a pitcher who can help them win this year.

That is what would be best for the Twins. And that is what would be best for Restovich.

This is a shame, really, more the result of bad timing than failure.

Had Restovich been born five years earlier, the Twins not only would have hurried him to the big leagues, they would have built their entire marketing campaign around him.

Instead, Restovich's rise through the Twins' organization coincided with that of Torii Hunter . . . and Jacque Jones . . . and Bobby Kielty . . . and Dustan Mohr . . . and Michael Cuddyer . . . and Lew Ford . . . and Mike Ryan.

And the acquisition of Shannon Stewart, last year's Twins MVP.

Today Restovich is batting about .240 for Class AAA Rochester (N.Y.), and watching another top outfield prospect, Jason Kubel, audition for a future Twins outfield job.

Restovich didn't seem thrilled with his predicament last week, when he came to the majors for a few days as an injury replacement, and his play has, predictably, stagnated in his third season at Class AAA.

It's time to trade him to a team that will use him in the majors, and acquire a pitcher who can help the Twins staff, which even team insiders admit is one or two arms shy of being prepared for a pennant run.

Here's a suggestion: Trade Restovich to Seattle.

The Mariners desperately need youth and power. And they have two pitchers who aren't doing them much good, but could provide the key to another Twins title.

Freddy Garcia.

And, yes, Eddie Guardado.

At first blush, both names seem silly. Garcia is making about $7 million this year, and the Twins aren't even sure they can afford to sign all of their high draft picks this year, much less take on lucrative contracts.

When Stewart came to town last year, the Blue Jays paid his salary for the remainder of the season. The Mariners aren't likely to do that with Garcia, not with a host of big-money teams expressing interest in him.

But the Twins would have to pay only a pro-rated portion of that contract, and Garcia likely would welcome a trade to Minnesota. The Venezuelan is friendly with the Twins' large Venezuelan contingent. More important, he can pitch.

As for Eddie, this idea admittedly falls under the category of "Wacky," but consider:

• Bad teams don't need good closers, so the Mariners should trade him.

• With Joe Nathan having proved his mettle as a closer, the Twins need one more reliable arm in the bullpen. Guardado has told virtually everyone in the Twins' clubhouse that he would kill to come back to Minnesota.

With him, the Twins would again have one of baseball's deepest bullpens, the strength of their team the past two years.

What General Manager Terry Ryan must remember is that his team will lose another handful of key players this winter, a list that could include Jones, Brad Radke, Cristian Guzman and Corey Koskie.

This is no time to hoard outfielders for the future.

Ryan had a chance to make a similar deal this spring. He spoke to the Reds about reliever Chris Reitsma, but balked when the Reds asked for Ford and Grant Balfour, and the Reds traded Reitsma to Atlanta.

The way Ford has played, Ryan was astute in not making that deal.

So how about this: Restovich and Balfour for a pitcher who can help the Twins win this year, whether it's Unsteady Freddy, Everyday Eddie or your average Jeff Reardon clone.

Jim Souhan is at [email protected].

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<font color="red">I thought I'd bring back the Twins thread with this article I found at startribune.com:</font>
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Trading Restovich would help Twins
Jim Souhan
June 2, 2004 INSI02




If you hadn't seen him with your own eyes, you would have suspected Michael Restovich to be the fictional creation of an overzealous Twins marketer.

Combining the bulk of Bronko Nagurski with the manners of a butler, the Rochester native turned down a career at Notre Dame to make his way through the minor-league system of his homestate team.

Part Paul Bunyan, part Kent Hrbek, Restovich was Joe Mauer before Mauer even enrolled at Cretin-Derham Hall High -- a budding local hero, sure to one day see his face plastered on the white tent in the Metrodome outfield.

It hasn't happened.

It might never happen.

That's why the Twins should trade outfielder Restovich, one of their top prospects, for a pitcher who can help them win this year.

That is what would be best for the Twins. And that is what would be best for Restovich.

This is a shame, really, more the result of bad timing than failure.

Had Restovich been born five years earlier, the Twins not only would have hurried him to the big leagues, they would have built their entire marketing campaign around him.

Instead, Restovich's rise through the Twins' organization coincided with that of Torii Hunter . . . and Jacque Jones . . . and Bobby Kielty . . . and Dustan Mohr . . . and Michael Cuddyer . . . and Lew Ford . . . and Mike Ryan.

And the acquisition of Shannon Stewart, last year's Twins MVP.

Today Restovich is batting about .240 for Class AAA Rochester (N.Y.), and watching another top outfield prospect, Jason Kubel, audition for a future Twins outfield job.

Restovich didn't seem thrilled with his predicament last week, when he came to the majors for a few days as an injury replacement, and his play has, predictably, stagnated in his third season at Class AAA.

It's time to trade him to a team that will use him in the majors, and acquire a pitcher who can help the Twins staff, which even team insiders admit is one or two arms shy of being prepared for a pennant run.

Here's a suggestion: Trade Restovich to Seattle.

The Mariners desperately need youth and power. And they have two pitchers who aren't doing them much good, but could provide the key to another Twins title.

Freddy Garcia.

And, yes, Eddie Guardado.

At first blush, both names seem silly. Garcia is making about $7 million this year, and the Twins aren't even sure they can afford to sign all of their high draft picks this year, much less take on lucrative contracts.

When Stewart came to town last year, the Blue Jays paid his salary for the remainder of the season. The Mariners aren't likely to do that with Garcia, not with a host of big-money teams expressing interest in him.

But the Twins would have to pay only a pro-rated portion of that contract, and Garcia likely would welcome a trade to Minnesota. The Venezuelan is friendly with the Twins' large Venezuelan contingent. More important, he can pitch.

As for Eddie, this idea admittedly falls under the category of "Wacky," but consider:

• Bad teams don't need good closers, so the Mariners should trade him.

• With Joe Nathan having proved his mettle as a closer, the Twins need one more reliable arm in the bullpen. Guardado has told virtually everyone in the Twins' clubhouse that he would kill to come back to Minnesota.

With him, the Twins would again have one of baseball's deepest bullpens, the strength of their team the past two years.

What General Manager Terry Ryan must remember is that his team will lose another handful of key players this winter, a list that could include Jones, Brad Radke, Cristian Guzman and Corey Koskie.

This is no time to hoard outfielders for the future.

Ryan had a chance to make a similar deal this spring. He spoke to the Reds about reliever Chris Reitsma, but balked when the Reds asked for Ford and Grant Balfour, and the Reds traded Reitsma to Atlanta.

The way Ford has played, Ryan was astute in not making that deal.

So how about this: Restovich and Balfour for a pitcher who can help the Twins win this year, whether it's Unsteady Freddy, Everyday Eddie or your average Jeff Reardon clone.

Jim Souhan is at [email protected].

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<font color="red">I thought I'd bring back the Twins thread with this article I found at startribune.com:</font>
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Trading Restovich would help Twins
Jim Souhan
June 2, 2004 INSI02




If you hadn't seen him with your own eyes, you would have suspected Michael Restovich to be the fictional creation of an overzealous Twins marketer.

Combining the bulk of Bronko Nagurski with the manners of a butler, the Rochester native turned down a career at Notre Dame to make his way through the minor-league system of his homestate team.

Part Paul Bunyan, part Kent Hrbek, Restovich was Joe Mauer before Mauer even enrolled at Cretin-Derham Hall High -- a budding local hero, sure to one day see his face plastered on the white tent in the Metrodome outfield.

It hasn't happened.

It might never happen.

That's why the Twins should trade outfielder Restovich, one of their top prospects, for a pitcher who can help them win this year.

That is what would be best for the Twins. And that is what would be best for Restovich.

This is a shame, really, more the result of bad timing than failure.

Had Restovich been born five years earlier, the Twins not only would have hurried him to the big leagues, they would have built their entire marketing campaign around him.

Instead, Restovich's rise through the Twins' organization coincided with that of Torii Hunter . . . and Jacque Jones . . . and Bobby Kielty . . . and Dustan Mohr . . . and Michael Cuddyer . . . and Lew Ford . . . and Mike Ryan.

And the acquisition of Shannon Stewart, last year's Twins MVP.

Today Restovich is batting about .240 for Class AAA Rochester (N.Y.), and watching another top outfield prospect, Jason Kubel, audition for a future Twins outfield job.

Restovich didn't seem thrilled with his predicament last week, when he came to the majors for a few days as an injury replacement, and his play has, predictably, stagnated in his third season at Class AAA.

It's time to trade him to a team that will use him in the majors, and acquire a pitcher who can help the Twins staff, which even team insiders admit is one or two arms shy of being prepared for a pennant run.

Here's a suggestion: Trade Restovich to Seattle.

The Mariners desperately need youth and power. And they have two pitchers who aren't doing them much good, but could provide the key to another Twins title.

Freddy Garcia.

And, yes, Eddie Guardado.

At first blush, both names seem silly. Garcia is making about $7 million this year, and the Twins aren't even sure they can afford to sign all of their high draft picks this year, much less take on lucrative contracts.

When Stewart came to town last year, the Blue Jays paid his salary for the remainder of the season. The Mariners aren't likely to do that with Garcia, not with a host of big-money teams expressing interest in him.

But the Twins would have to pay only a pro-rated portion of that contract, and Garcia likely would welcome a trade to Minnesota. The Venezuelan is friendly with the Twins' large Venezuelan contingent. More important, he can pitch.

As for Eddie, this idea admittedly falls under the category of "Wacky," but consider:

• Bad teams don't need good closers, so the Mariners should trade him.

• With Joe Nathan having proved his mettle as a closer, the Twins need one more reliable arm in the bullpen. Guardado has told virtually everyone in the Twins' clubhouse that he would kill to come back to Minnesota.

With him, the Twins would again have one of baseball's deepest bullpens, the strength of their team the past two years.

What General Manager Terry Ryan must remember is that his team will lose another handful of key players this winter, a list that could include Jones, Brad Radke, Cristian Guzman and Corey Koskie.

This is no time to hoard outfielders for the future.

Ryan had a chance to make a similar deal this spring. He spoke to the Reds about reliever Chris Reitsma, but balked when the Reds asked for Ford and Grant Balfour, and the Reds traded Reitsma to Atlanta.

The way Ford has played, Ryan was astute in not making that deal.

So how about this: Restovich and Balfour for a pitcher who can help the Twins win this year, whether it's Unsteady Freddy, Everyday Eddie or your average Jeff Reardon clone.

Jim Souhan is at [email protected].

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That actually does not sound like a bad idea for the Twins, He's right, basically there is no room for Restovich in the Twins Outfield, at least he would have a real chance to play with Seattle, who is expected to move a lot of players down the stretch, and you might be surprised, those same big money teams that he mentions who may want Garcia, don't have the prospects the Twins have, so Seattle might be willing to eat some of Freddy Garcia's salary.

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That actually does not sound like a bad idea for the Twins, He's right, basically there is no room for Restovich in the Twins Outfield, at least he would have a real chance to play with Seattle, who is expected to move a lot of players down the stretch, and you might be surprised, those same big money teams that he mentions who may want Garcia, don't have the prospects the Twins have, so Seattle might be willing to eat some of Freddy Garcia's salary.

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That actually does not sound like a bad idea for the Twins, He's right, basically there is no room for Restovich in the Twins Outfield, at least he would have a real chance to play with Seattle, who is expected to move a lot of players down the stretch, and you might be surprised, those same big money teams that he mentions who may want Garcia, don't have the prospects the Twins have, so Seattle might be willing to eat some of Freddy Garcia's salary.

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My question is: What is Restovich's trade value? Who's looking for a guy that's hitting below .250 at AAA and strikes out a ton? Restovish is a good athlete, and has big time power, but his strike outs are a huge negative, and i don't see his value being high enough to get anyone that could help the Twins.

Also, there is no way they could afford Eddie G. now. He's being paid as a top-level closer, and Nathan is clearly that guy for the Twins. I don't see them being able to pay closer money to the set-up man.

I'd love it if the Twins could swing a deal, but i think these trade ideas are a little far-fetched.

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My question is: What is Restovich's trade value? Who's looking for a guy that's hitting below .250 at AAA and strikes out a ton? Restovish is a good athlete, and has big time power, but his strike outs are a huge negative, and i don't see his value being high enough to get anyone that could help the Twins.

Also, there is no way they could afford Eddie G. now. He's being paid as a top-level closer, and Nathan is clearly that guy for the Twins. I don't see them being able to pay closer money to the set-up man.

I'd love it if the Twins could swing a deal, but i think these trade ideas are a little far-fetched.

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My question is: What is Restovich's trade value? Who's looking for a guy that's hitting below .250 at AAA and strikes out a ton? Restovish is a good athlete, and has big time power, but his strike outs are a huge negative, and i don't see his value being high enough to get anyone that could help the Twins.

Also, there is no way they could afford Eddie G. now. He's being paid as a top-level closer, and Nathan is clearly that guy for the Twins. I don't see them being able to pay closer money to the set-up man.

I'd love it if the Twins could swing a deal, but i think these trade ideas are a little far-fetched.

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<font color="red"> Twins get back on the winning end by stomping the Devil Rays 16 to 4. </font>

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<font color="red"> Twins get back on the winning end by stomping the Devil Rays 16 to 4. </font>