Concern for yankee fans

[Misfit]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

The Twins had too many left-handed batters. It was good for both them and Ortiz to go with something else. He has a similar to make-up to Mo Vaughn only not as polished, both of those guys had the power to pull at Fenway and the strength to use the Monster.

It would certainly be nice if Reese could put up those numbers, but I wouldn't expect him to equal Walker's numbers. Walker had a decent season but he was horribly inconsistent. He got hot at the end of the season and into the playoffs though which made him look like an offensive power house to the national media. Reese is there primarily for his defense, which Walker just isn't good at. And Bellhorn is there in case he can find the stroke he had a few years ago that made him dangerous. If he started hitting again this year then that would make things pretty interesting.

[Ckhoss29]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

This is from an article on ESPN.com
CHECKBOOK CHAMPS:
1. Yankees -- Took on a $112-million I.O.U. on A-Rod. Gave $70 million to 11 free agents. Traded for Javier Vazquez and signed him for four years, $45 million. Assumed the last $30 million on Kevin Brown's deal. (Grand total: $257 million, not even counting the $2 million they gave the Dodgers to take Jeff Weaver.)


That is just amazing that they can just buy what they want. And no don't tell me that the owners should pay out their pockets, the yankees revenue is so high with their tv deal and everything that George isn't spending a dime. I am not saying that the Yankees are doing anything wrong they aren't breakng rules or anything, they are just so far ahead of everyone else. $257 mill. when some teams are at $30 mill. Does that seem right no, is it against the rules no.
The thing that I am trying to point out is that football has the best league right now, it is the hottest ticket out there and that is because your team isn't done in the first week like most baseball teams are. There are always exceptions every year, like the marlins or the DBacks or teams like that but for most baseball fans your team is out of the race before it is started and that is why baseball struggles in most cities to put butts in the seats.
They need a salary cap in baseball and not this revenue sharing crap that is BS. The only person happy at the way baseball salaries are going are Yankees fans, you tell me that Twins fans are happy that they have had a good run but all of their young guys are coming up on contracts and their team is about to get bought out by the likes of the Mariners, or Yankees. Or how about the A's every year they lose a big bat Giambi, Damon, Tejada, you tell me that they are happy with the way that baseball is going no they aren't.

[Ckhoss29]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

This is from an article on ESPN.com
CHECKBOOK CHAMPS:
1. Yankees -- Took on a $112-million I.O.U. on A-Rod. Gave $70 million to 11 free agents. Traded for Javier Vazquez and signed him for four years, $45 million. Assumed the last $30 million on Kevin Brown's deal. (Grand total: $257 million, not even counting the $2 million they gave the Dodgers to take Jeff Weaver.)


That is just amazing that they can just buy what they want. And no don't tell me that the owners should pay out their pockets, the yankees revenue is so high with their tv deal and everything that George isn't spending a dime. I am not saying that the Yankees are doing anything wrong they aren't breakng rules or anything, they are just so far ahead of everyone else. $257 mill. when some teams are at $30 mill. Does that seem right no, is it against the rules no.
The thing that I am trying to point out is that football has the best league right now, it is the hottest ticket out there and that is because your team isn't done in the first week like most baseball teams are. There are always exceptions every year, like the marlins or the DBacks or teams like that but for most baseball fans your team is out of the race before it is started and that is why baseball struggles in most cities to put butts in the seats.
They need a salary cap in baseball and not this revenue sharing crap that is BS. The only person happy at the way baseball salaries are going are Yankees fans, you tell me that Twins fans are happy that they have had a good run but all of their young guys are coming up on contracts and their team is about to get bought out by the likes of the Mariners, or Yankees. Or how about the A's every year they lose a big bat Giambi, Damon, Tejada, you tell me that they are happy with the way that baseball is going no they aren't.

[Ckhoss29]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

This is from an article on ESPN.com
CHECKBOOK CHAMPS:
1. Yankees -- Took on a $112-million I.O.U. on A-Rod. Gave $70 million to 11 free agents. Traded for Javier Vazquez and signed him for four years, $45 million. Assumed the last $30 million on Kevin Brown's deal. (Grand total: $257 million, not even counting the $2 million they gave the Dodgers to take Jeff Weaver.)


That is just amazing that they can just buy what they want. And no don't tell me that the owners should pay out their pockets, the yankees revenue is so high with their tv deal and everything that George isn't spending a dime. I am not saying that the Yankees are doing anything wrong they aren't breakng rules or anything, they are just so far ahead of everyone else. $257 mill. when some teams are at $30 mill. Does that seem right no, is it against the rules no.
The thing that I am trying to point out is that football has the best league right now, it is the hottest ticket out there and that is because your team isn't done in the first week like most baseball teams are. There are always exceptions every year, like the marlins or the DBacks or teams like that but for most baseball fans your team is out of the race before it is started and that is why baseball struggles in most cities to put butts in the seats.
They need a salary cap in baseball and not this revenue sharing crap that is BS. The only person happy at the way baseball salaries are going are Yankees fans, you tell me that Twins fans are happy that they have had a good run but all of their young guys are coming up on contracts and their team is about to get bought out by the likes of the Mariners, or Yankees. Or how about the A's every year they lose a big bat Giambi, Damon, Tejada, you tell me that they are happy with the way that baseball is going no they aren't.

[robin3mj]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

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Ckhoss29 said:
This is from an article on ESPN.com
CHECKBOOK CHAMPS:
1. Yankees -- Took on a $112-million I.O.U. on A-Rod. Gave $70 million to 11 free agents. Traded for Javier Vazquez and signed him for four years, $45 million. Assumed the last $30 million on Kevin Brown's deal. (Grand total: $257 million, not even counting the $2 million they gave the Dodgers to take Jeff Weaver.)


That is just amazing that they can just buy what they want. And no don't tell me that the owners should pay out their pockets, the yankees revenue is so high with their tv deal and everything that George isn't spending a dime. I am not saying that the Yankees are doing anything wrong they aren't breakng rules or anything, they are just so far ahead of everyone else. $257 mill. when some teams are at $30 mill. Does that seem right no, is it against the rules no.
The thing that I am trying to point out is that football has the best league right now, it is the hottest ticket out there and that is because your team isn't done in the first week like most baseball teams are. There are always exceptions every year, like the marlins or the DBacks or teams like that but for most baseball fans your team is out of the race before it is started and that is why baseball struggles in most cities to put butts in the seats.
They need a salary cap in baseball and not this revenue sharing crap that is BS. The only person happy at the way baseball salaries are going are Yankees fans, you tell me that Twins fans are happy that they have had a good run but all of their young guys are coming up on contracts and their team is about to get bought out by the likes of the Mariners, or Yankees. Or how about the A's every year they lose a big bat Giambi, Damon, Tejada, you tell me that they are happy with the way that baseball is going no they aren't.

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First off- the Yankees are at about $185 million not $257, so your exaggeration doesn't win you any credibility points. Secondly, do you not think the fact that the Brewers have a $30 million payroll is a joke? The people of Milwaukee paid to build them a new stadium recently, with the promise that they'd compete. They are not even trying- Bud is killing the franchise in an attempt to stop the Yankees, shedding any and all decent players and pocketing the revenue sharing money. Ask the people in Wisconsin whether they'd rather have an owner like George or the 'Selig blind trust'.

Furthermore, you don't think GS spent any money on the club when he'd just bought it? The Yankees sucked in the early 70s, a time when baseball interest in NYC was extremely low. He won 2 WS in the late 70s, then plugged along through the bad years making bad decisions with his OWN money. Only in the past 15 years has local cable revenues really taken off, and only then because he committed to put a good product on the field...

[robin3mj]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

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Ckhoss29 said:
This is from an article on ESPN.com
CHECKBOOK CHAMPS:
1. Yankees -- Took on a $112-million I.O.U. on A-Rod. Gave $70 million to 11 free agents. Traded for Javier Vazquez and signed him for four years, $45 million. Assumed the last $30 million on Kevin Brown's deal. (Grand total: $257 million, not even counting the $2 million they gave the Dodgers to take Jeff Weaver.)


That is just amazing that they can just buy what they want. And no don't tell me that the owners should pay out their pockets, the yankees revenue is so high with their tv deal and everything that George isn't spending a dime. I am not saying that the Yankees are doing anything wrong they aren't breakng rules or anything, they are just so far ahead of everyone else. $257 mill. when some teams are at $30 mill. Does that seem right no, is it against the rules no.
The thing that I am trying to point out is that football has the best league right now, it is the hottest ticket out there and that is because your team isn't done in the first week like most baseball teams are. There are always exceptions every year, like the marlins or the DBacks or teams like that but for most baseball fans your team is out of the race before it is started and that is why baseball struggles in most cities to put butts in the seats.
They need a salary cap in baseball and not this revenue sharing crap that is BS. The only person happy at the way baseball salaries are going are Yankees fans, you tell me that Twins fans are happy that they have had a good run but all of their young guys are coming up on contracts and their team is about to get bought out by the likes of the Mariners, or Yankees. Or how about the A's every year they lose a big bat Giambi, Damon, Tejada, you tell me that they are happy with the way that baseball is going no they aren't.

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First off- the Yankees are at about $185 million not $257, so your exaggeration doesn't win you any credibility points. Secondly, do you not think the fact that the Brewers have a $30 million payroll is a joke? The people of Milwaukee paid to build them a new stadium recently, with the promise that they'd compete. They are not even trying- Bud is killing the franchise in an attempt to stop the Yankees, shedding any and all decent players and pocketing the revenue sharing money. Ask the people in Wisconsin whether they'd rather have an owner like George or the 'Selig blind trust'.

Furthermore, you don't think GS spent any money on the club when he'd just bought it? The Yankees sucked in the early 70s, a time when baseball interest in NYC was extremely low. He won 2 WS in the late 70s, then plugged along through the bad years making bad decisions with his OWN money. Only in the past 15 years has local cable revenues really taken off, and only then because he committed to put a good product on the field...

[robin3mj]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

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Ckhoss29 said:
This is from an article on ESPN.com
CHECKBOOK CHAMPS:
1. Yankees -- Took on a $112-million I.O.U. on A-Rod. Gave $70 million to 11 free agents. Traded for Javier Vazquez and signed him for four years, $45 million. Assumed the last $30 million on Kevin Brown's deal. (Grand total: $257 million, not even counting the $2 million they gave the Dodgers to take Jeff Weaver.)


That is just amazing that they can just buy what they want. And no don't tell me that the owners should pay out their pockets, the yankees revenue is so high with their tv deal and everything that George isn't spending a dime. I am not saying that the Yankees are doing anything wrong they aren't breakng rules or anything, they are just so far ahead of everyone else. $257 mill. when some teams are at $30 mill. Does that seem right no, is it against the rules no.
The thing that I am trying to point out is that football has the best league right now, it is the hottest ticket out there and that is because your team isn't done in the first week like most baseball teams are. There are always exceptions every year, like the marlins or the DBacks or teams like that but for most baseball fans your team is out of the race before it is started and that is why baseball struggles in most cities to put butts in the seats.
They need a salary cap in baseball and not this revenue sharing crap that is BS. The only person happy at the way baseball salaries are going are Yankees fans, you tell me that Twins fans are happy that they have had a good run but all of their young guys are coming up on contracts and their team is about to get bought out by the likes of the Mariners, or Yankees. Or how about the A's every year they lose a big bat Giambi, Damon, Tejada, you tell me that they are happy with the way that baseball is going no they aren't.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


First off- the Yankees are at about $185 million not $257, so your exaggeration doesn't win you any credibility points. Secondly, do you not think the fact that the Brewers have a $30 million payroll is a joke? The people of Milwaukee paid to build them a new stadium recently, with the promise that they'd compete. They are not even trying- Bud is killing the franchise in an attempt to stop the Yankees, shedding any and all decent players and pocketing the revenue sharing money. Ask the people in Wisconsin whether they'd rather have an owner like George or the 'Selig blind trust'.

Furthermore, you don't think GS spent any money on the club when he'd just bought it? The Yankees sucked in the early 70s, a time when baseball interest in NYC was extremely low. He won 2 WS in the late 70s, then plugged along through the bad years making bad decisions with his OWN money. Only in the past 15 years has local cable revenues really taken off, and only then because he committed to put a good product on the field...

[Jeven316]

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Do you think that even with the revenue sharing money that small market teams can compete with the Evil Empire known as the Yankees and all their dough? All the money gets the small market teams usually is an aging veteran signed to a one year deal...and if that veteran somehow has a great year you know the Yankees would dig deeper into there pockets to sign him.Plus teams need the revenue sharing money for a lot more than just signing players. Oh well someday, I believe, baseball will have a salary cap but now is not the time. Anyway do you think if Derek Jeter got injured for an extended period of time, that the Yanks would move A-Rod back to short and Jeter would be the odd man out?

[Jeven316]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

Do you think that even with the revenue sharing money that small market teams can compete with the Evil Empire known as the Yankees and all their dough? All the money gets the small market teams usually is an aging veteran signed to a one year deal...and if that veteran somehow has a great year you know the Yankees would dig deeper into there pockets to sign him.Plus teams need the revenue sharing money for a lot more than just signing players. Oh well someday, I believe, baseball will have a salary cap but now is not the time. Anyway do you think if Derek Jeter got injured for an extended period of time, that the Yanks would move A-Rod back to short and Jeter would be the odd man out?

[Jeven316]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

Do you think that even with the revenue sharing money that small market teams can compete with the Evil Empire known as the Yankees and all their dough? All the money gets the small market teams usually is an aging veteran signed to a one year deal...and if that veteran somehow has a great year you know the Yankees would dig deeper into there pockets to sign him.Plus teams need the revenue sharing money for a lot more than just signing players. Oh well someday, I believe, baseball will have a salary cap but now is not the time. Anyway do you think if Derek Jeter got injured for an extended period of time, that the Yanks would move A-Rod back to short and Jeter would be the odd man out?

[LHayes37]

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ARod's numbers at home will not be as good as they were in Arlington. He hits 75% of his homers to left field and the most HR's hit by a righty in a single season at Yankee Stadium is 19. I say he hits 17 there this year. As for somebosy mentioning the lack of speed in the lineup for the Yankees, have you ever heard of the Earl Weaver theory of baseball? Just sit back and wait for the three run HR. That's all they'll have to do, it's pretty simple.

[LHayes37]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

ARod's numbers at home will not be as good as they were in Arlington. He hits 75% of his homers to left field and the most HR's hit by a righty in a single season at Yankee Stadium is 19. I say he hits 17 there this year. As for somebosy mentioning the lack of speed in the lineup for the Yankees, have you ever heard of the Earl Weaver theory of baseball? Just sit back and wait for the three run HR. That's all they'll have to do, it's pretty simple.

[LHayes37]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

ARod's numbers at home will not be as good as they were in Arlington. He hits 75% of his homers to left field and the most HR's hit by a righty in a single season at Yankee Stadium is 19. I say he hits 17 there this year. As for somebosy mentioning the lack of speed in the lineup for the Yankees, have you ever heard of the Earl Weaver theory of baseball? Just sit back and wait for the three run HR. That's all they'll have to do, it's pretty simple.

[dooch]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

What a lot of you are forgetting in the whole ARod deal, and how his numbers will stack up to Soriano's, take a look at the competition he will be facing now. Yes, he will face the Sox staff 19 times, but he now gets to face the D-Rays, O's, and to a lesser extent, the Jays pitching staffs. That's basically 60 games against arguably the 2 worst staffs in the game (D Rays and O's) and a mediocre at best one in the Jays (outside of Halladay). Whereas in the AL West, he had to face the A's and Mariners staffs 40 times, and to a lesser extent, the Angels. So I think whatever he loses in having to play 1/2 his games in Yankee Stadium will more than be made up by getting to face all this bad pitching in the AL East now...

[dooch]

Re: Concern for yankee fans

What a lot of you are forgetting in the whole ARod deal, and how his numbers will stack up to Soriano's, take a look at the competition he will be facing now. Yes, he will face the Sox staff 19 times, but he now gets to face the D-Rays, O's, and to a lesser extent, the Jays pitching staffs. That's basically 60 games against arguably the 2 worst staffs in the game (D Rays and O's) and a mediocre at best one in the Jays (outside of Halladay). Whereas in the AL West, he had to face the A's and Mariners staffs 40 times, and to a lesser extent, the Angels. So I think whatever he loses in having to play 1/2 his games in Yankee Stadium will more than be made up by getting to face all this bad pitching in the AL East now...