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  • areobee401
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2006
    • 16771

    #6301
    MLB Off-Topic

    No point in caring about individual awards decided by a voting system that consists of voters with various sets of guidelines. If Trout wins, cool. If Betts wins, cook. Won't hear a peep out of me claiming someone was "cheated" if he does not win.
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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52692

      #6302
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by TheMatrix31
      Should be Fulmer and Seager for ROY, Francona and Roberts for Manager of the Year, Verlander and Scherzer (should be Kershaw regardless) for Cy Young and Trout and Bryant for MVP.
      This would be my vote.
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      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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      • Sportsforever
        NL MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 20368

        #6303
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Surprised this hasn't been posted, but GG results announced yesterday:

        Anthony Rizzo, Francisco Lindor, Adrian Beltre and Joe Panik are among the 2016 winners of the Gold Glove Awards.


        Biggest surprise for me - Lindor over Simmons in the AL. It's amazing how good Simmons has been over 5 seasons and yet he's only won 2 GG's. Congrats to Ender Inciarte as well...yay, the Braves won something.
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        • Scott
          Your Go-to TV Expert
          • Jul 2002
          • 20030

          #6304
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Happy to see Mitch Moreland get a GG, even if this was his last season as a Ranger. Props to Future HOF Adrian Beltre too
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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42509

            #6305
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by Sportsforever
            Surprised this hasn't been posted, but GG results announced yesterday:

            Anthony Rizzo, Francisco Lindor, Adrian Beltre and Joe Panik are among the 2016 winners of the Gold Glove Awards.


            Biggest surprise for me - Lindor over Simmons in the AL. It's amazing how good Simmons has been over 5 seasons and yet he's only won 2 GG's. Congrats to Ender Inciarte as well...yay, the Braves won something.
            Haven't you heard? To be voted as a good defensive player, you have to perform well offensively too. See Brandon Crawford's win years versus snub years.

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            • Scott
              Your Go-to TV Expert
              • Jul 2002
              • 20030

              #6306
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by Blzer
              Haven't you heard? To be voted as a good defensive player, you have to perform well offensively too. See Brandon Crawford's win years versus snub years.

              * Exception to rule: Jason Heyward *
              Forgot Mitch Moreland, he only hit .233/.298/.422 with 22 HRs & 60 RBIs.
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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47433

                #6307
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by Sportsforever
                Surprised this hasn't been posted, but GG results announced yesterday:

                Anthony Rizzo, Francisco Lindor, Adrian Beltre and Joe Panik are among the 2016 winners of the Gold Glove Awards.


                Biggest surprise for me - Lindor over Simmons in the AL. It's amazing how good Simmons has been over 5 seasons and yet he's only won 2 GG's. Congrats to Ender Inciarte as well...yay, the Braves won something.
                And Kevin Pillar yet again gets screwed due to the stupid new OF format. Borderline top 5 defensive WAR in the MLB, yet doesn't get a gold glove because the only OF ahead of him happens to play the same OF position.

                Over the past 2 years, Kevin Pillar has the 4th highest dWAR in the majors, yet 0 gold gloves.

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                • Blzer
                  Resident film pundit
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 42509

                  #6308
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by Scott
                  Forgot Mitch Moreland, he only hit .233/.298/.422 with 22 HRs & 60 RBIs.
                  True that, but sometimes those 22 home runs is the golden ticket in itself. Show that you have any offensive prowess whatsoever, and you will be considered. If you don't, you are just a lowly player no matter what your defensive ratings say, and therefore not worthy of the gold glove.

                  Very strange indeed. It was almost bittersweet that just because Crawford finally performed offensively with some power that he was finally awarded.

                  EDIT: Perhaps it's better that I don't generalize for everybody, and instead just say that your candidacy is strengthened if you perform better offensively.
                  Last edited by Blzer; 11-09-2016, 12:54 PM.
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                  • Syce
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1386

                    #6309
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by Majingir
                    And Kevin Pillar yet again gets screwed due to the stupid new OF format. Borderline top 5 defensive WAR in the MLB, yet doesn't get a gold glove because the only OF ahead of him happens to play the same OF position.

                    Over the past 2 years, Kevin Pillar has the 4th highest dWAR in the majors, yet 0 gold gloves.
                    and to make matters worse, you see Kevin Kiermaier's Comments about winning the gold glove?
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                    • Master Live 013
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 12327

                      #6310
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      MLB decides to destroy, not donate, Indians World Series champs items
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                      • PhilliesFan13
                        Banned
                        • May 2009
                        • 15651

                        #6311
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by Sycecg
                        and to make matters worse, you see Kevin Kiermaier's Comments about winning the gold glove?
                        What did he say?

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                        • Sportsforever
                          NL MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 20368

                          #6312
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                          What did he say?

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                          I'm guessing he's referring to the his comments that stated he should win based on his reputation since he was out due to injury.
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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #6313
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by Sportsforever
                            I'm guessing he's referring to the his comments that stated he should win based on his reputation since he was out due to injury.
                            Guess we should just hand over the MVP award every year to Babe Ruth since reputation.
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                            • Sportsforever
                              NL MVP
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 20368

                              #6314
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by CMH
                              Guess we should just hand over the MVP award every year to Babe Ruth since reputation.
                              I think it was taken out of context though...I read the entire thing and he essentially was acknowledging that IF he won this year, it was because of his reputation as he didn't put up a large enough body of work to merit over the other guys due to the time he missed. Maybe I'm wrong, but I didn't think he was implying he should win it because of his reputation...it's a subtle difference, but a huge one.
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                              • Sportsforever
                                NL MVP
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 20368

                                #6315
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Watching the Silver Slugger awards and seeing the highlights from this year...sigh, I miss baseball already. Can't wait for ST!
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