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  • Speedy
    #Ace
    • Apr 2008
    • 16143
    #7486
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
    Voiding his contract would be doing him a favor. He would make bank on the open market.
    I don't know about that.

    How would a team know if his prior results were tainted? What about their fans and any outrage at signing a PED user to a lucrative deal?

    Regardless, MLBPA would have to sign off and there's no way that's happening.
    Originally posted by Gibson88
    Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
    It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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      • DieHardYankee26
        BING BONG
        • Feb 2008
        • 10178
        #7487
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Yeah I don't think any of that stuff matters. We went out and got Chappie for the specific reason that his value was low after his domestic violence incident. I don't think Mariners fans are booing when Nelson Cruz hits home runs. Melky made a whole fake website to get people off his back, didn't work, got suspended, got paid. I don't think the majority of people care, or would be taken into account even if they did. The wheels keep turning.
        Originally posted by G Perico
        If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
        I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
        In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
        The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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          • Bard
            YouTube: NHBard
            • Oct 2010
            • 7803
            #7488
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Here's my resolution to this all...

            No more banned substances.

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              • Speedy
                #Ace
                • Apr 2008
                • 16143
                #7489
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                Yeah I don't think any of that stuff matters. We went out and got Chappie for the specific reason that his value was low after his domestic violence incident. I don't think Mariners fans are booing when Nelson Cruz hits home runs. Melky made a whole fake website to get people off his back, didn't work, got suspended, got paid. I don't think the majority of people care, or would be taken into account even if they did. The wheels keep turning.
                Makes sense, good points.
                Originally posted by Gibson88
                Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046
                    #7490
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                    If people haven't realized by now that pro sports are just a job they never will.
                    Oh it's definitely a job, just sometimes I like to be idealistic about it


                    BTW I didn't know this wrinkle until I was watching the Jays game last night but the "heartfelt" apology statement that Marte made was signed by his agent rather than him. I mean, I know that's par for the course in a lot of respects but if you want to come across as genuinely sorry than the least you can do is sign your own damn statement.
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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203
                        #7491
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        The team operating with a sense of morality is the same team left behind in the competitive market.

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                        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203
                            #7492
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by Majingir
                            So even though he's suspended, he's still gonna get those millions of dollars in his contract? Mlb needs stricter rules on that. Like voided contracts if caught. Guys I'm sure would care lots more about being caught if it drastically impacts them financially compared to being caught and having their future millions to fall back on.
                            He won't get paid during his suspension so he definitely loses money. But so long as he stops taking PEDs he will be just fine collecting the rest of his contract.

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                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                              • kehlis
                                Moderator
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 27738
                                #7493
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by CMH
                                He won't get paid during his suspension so he definitely loses money. But so long as he stops taking PEDs he will be just fine collecting the rest of his contract.

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                                I agree that voiding the contract is unrealistic but what I do really like the fact that he's automatically disqualified from the playoffs because of this should a miracle happen and the Pirates make it.

                                That would be a pretty tough pill to swallow watching them from home.

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                                  • DieHardYankee26
                                    BING BONG
                                    • Feb 2008
                                    • 10178
                                    #7494
                                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                    Agree 100%, I think the playoff ineligibility is the key. If you want to get guys to stop taking PED's, you need to punish the entities that reward them for doing so. I think that is a great way to incentivize teams to do their own due diligence and not just look the other way.
                                    Originally posted by G Perico
                                    If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                                    I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                                    In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                                    The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                                      • LambertandHam
                                        All Star
                                        • Jul 2010
                                        • 8008
                                        #7495
                                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                        Vice Sports had a good article on Marte, talking with Victor Conte. Conte basically said that the drug Marte took is too easy to find in your system.
                                        Steam

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                                          • DamnYanks2
                                            Hall Of Fame
                                            • Jun 2007
                                            • 20794
                                            #7496
                                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                            Disappointed about Marte, like watching that kid play, and he's so talented.

                                            The risk still outweighs the reward, 80 games, no playoffs, isn't a big deal if you play on a middling or crappy team.

                                            There's really only one way to get the message across, and unfortunately it's a lifetime ban for any offense.

                                            Zero tolerance policy is really the only way to discourage any use of drugs. That would really make players think, is this really worth it.

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                                              • ImTellinTim
                                                YNWA
                                                • Sep 2006
                                                • 33028
                                                #7497
                                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                                You can't void contracts for PED suspensions. You're an owner and need to conveniently get that bad contract off your books? Would be a shame if this substance made its way into your body somehow....

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                                                  • jvalverde88
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • Jun 2008
                                                    • 11787
                                                    #7498
                                                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                                    Originally posted by areobee401
                                                    Well Ryan Braun is a special type of ******* so....
                                                    Originally posted by Jr.
                                                    Yeah Braun basically ended another guy's career in his fake denial. He's the prototype of a douche
                                                    He takes pictures like a douche too.

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                                                      • SPTO
                                                        binging
                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 68046
                                                        #7499
                                                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                                        Originally posted by jvalverde88
                                                        He takes pictures like a douche too.

                                                        That looks like something from late '80s/early '90s Miami LOL
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                                                        "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                                                          • DamnYanks2
                                                            Hall Of Fame
                                                            • Jun 2007
                                                            • 20794
                                                            #7500
                                                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                                            Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                                                            You can't void contracts for PED suspensions. You're an owner and need to conveniently get that bad contract off your books? Would be a shame if this substance made its way into your body somehow....
                                                            That seems a bit tin foiled, doesn't it?

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