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  • bhurst99
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    • Aug 2003
    • 9137

    #7456
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by Steven78
    Jose Fernandez getting a statue outside Marlins Park?

    Ok Miami.
    That's crazy.

    That's like the Patriots putting up a statute of Aaron Hernadez.
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    • kehlis
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      • Jul 2008
      • 27738

      #7457
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by bhurst99
      That's crazy.

      That's like the Patriots putting up a statute of Aaron Hernadez.
      It's pretty clear you are unaware of what Hernandez did.....

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      • bhurst99
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        • Aug 2003
        • 9137

        #7458
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by kehlis
        It's pretty clear you are unaware of what Hernandez did.....
        He killed people, right? Same as Fernandez. If he lived he would be going to jail for a long time.
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        • kehlis
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          • Jul 2008
          • 27738

          #7459
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by bhurst99
          He killed people, right? Same as Fernandez. If he lived he would be going to jail for a long time.
          If you can't decipher the difference between intent and consequence that's on you.

          I don't feel a statue is appropriate either, but to compare this to the Hernandez case is absolutely laughable.

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          • bhurst99
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            • Aug 2003
            • 9137

            #7460
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by kehlis
            If you can't decipher the difference between intent and consequence that's on you.

            I don't feel a statue is appropriate either, but to compare this to the Hernandez case is absolutely laughable.
            I'm using hyperbole to make a point. It's an absurd decision by the Marlins.

            The difference between intent and consequences matters little to the victims' families. I think we all know the potential consequences flowing from intentionally taking alcohol, drugs and driving at a high speed.

            I feel terrible for the victims families if the Marlins go through with this.
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            • CMH
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              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #7461
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              I don't think hyperbole was the best form here. The guy died and it affected a lot of people. He's a victim too. Ignoring his family and his unfortunate fate is just as terrible.

              You could have made the same or better point by suggesting Fernandez put people in danger with his decisions that night (not compared it to murder) or, even better, that he had a smaller impact on Miami Marlins history than guys like Livan Hernandez or Edgar Renteria and Josh Beckett.

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              • TheMatrix31
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                • Jul 2002
                • 52897

                #7462
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Did it ever get confirmed that Yordano Ventura's accident was alcohol-related?

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                • ubernoob
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                  • Jul 2004
                  • 15522

                  #7463
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                  Did it ever get confirmed that Yordano Ventura's accident was alcohol-related?
                  They didn't release the toxicology report, though I'm pretty sure the assumption here is yes.
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                  • CMH
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #7464
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by ubernoob
                    They didn't release the toxicology report, though I'm pretty sure the assumption here is yes.
                    Yeah I think the story was his family wouldn't receive the rest of the contract or life insurance if it was revealed he was intoxicated.

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                    • SPTO
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                      • Feb 2003
                      • 68046

                      #7465
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      This comes from the AP and while it may make the replay process even longer at least there will be some accountability in some respects if it gets done:

                      While nothing is set, Major League Baseball and umps are expected to discuss a plan -- most prominently used in the NFL -- for crew chiefs to wear a microphone and explain replay rulings.

                      Under one possible scenario, they would start at the All-Star Game on July 11 in Miami, tweak the process over the season's second half and then go forward with the experiment in the playoffs.

                      People familiar with the talks spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because an agreement has not yet been reached.

                      Last year, MLB asked for the plate ump to wear a mic at the All-Star Game, but there wasn't enough time to do it.

                      The umpires are in the middle of their five-year labour deal and any change would involve negotiations, plus a comfort level on both sides that the system would be efficient, accurate and easy.
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                      • Blzer
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                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42509

                        #7466
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        I think at least one more thing has to be allowed:

                        If either of the two umpires on the field wearing the headphones see a live replay on the jumbotron that shows indisputable evidence of a call to be overturned, they should be able to make that call themselves and override anything that the officials in NY are looking at.

                        Nothing must feel worse than an umpire to not only get a call wrong (which is partly why this overruling should be okay, because anyone willing to admit their mistake like that should have such power), but then to see that it's wrong yet the New York crew decidedly does not overturn said call.

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                        Wait wait, one more thing:

                        No chance for dugout to be able to converse with someone looking at video replay beforehand. Give them ten seconds to decide to overturn it based on what they saw live. That's it.
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                        • LambertandHam
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                          • Jul 2010
                          • 8008

                          #7467
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Marte busted 80 games for PEDS. You *******.
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                          • Bard
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                            • Oct 2010
                            • 7803

                            #7468
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by LambertandHam
                            Marte busted 80 games for PEDS. You *******.
                            Enter Meadows.

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                            • kehlis
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                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #7469
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by Bard
                              Enter Meadows.

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                              Doesn't sound like it.

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                              • Bard
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                                • Oct 2010
                                • 7803

                                #7470
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by kehlis
                                Doesn't sound like it.
                                Yeah...doubt it. Just want to see that kid in action.

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