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[dickey1331]

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Strongly disagree about the earning potential, football pays a hell of a lot more FOR QBs than baseball. If you are talking playing DL, HB, WR, OL, DB, TE sure the earning potential in the MLB is probably better. But not for a QB. Matt Stafford has earned the same amount in his career than arguably the best LHP in baseball, Clayton Kershaw. If you were starting a franchise how many QBs would you take before you got to Stafford? Now how many LHPs would you take over Kershaw?

Anyone who drafts Murray as their franchise QB is going to be in for a rude awakening.


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[redsox4evur]

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Anyone who drafts Murray as their franchise QB is going to be in for a rude awakening.


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Different topic for a different thread. But agree completely. I'm just saying the smartest business was to go with football over baseball.

[Jr.]

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I feel like you didn’t read what I wrote.


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The chance of injury is the only thing baseball has over football in your point. Quarterbacks are playing longer than ever, and the percentage of players that play professional baseball that make it to the major league level is very small.

Ultimately the points you're arguing only apply to the best of best in baseball. Murray would have at least two years to even get to that level more than likely, then another 6 to reap the financial benefits he can get 4 months from now in football (barring changes to the CBA in a couple of years)

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[WaitTilNextYear]

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I feel like you didn’t read what I wrote.


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I feel like you post with too sour of an attitude.

[kehlis]

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You can also offer a longer career, way lower chance of injury, and the probability of greater earning potential over the course of a career.


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Guaranteed > Probability

[Master Live 013]

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If he were great (which would probably mean he got to majors at an earlier age), once he got to the majors it would take him 3 years, not 6, to start reaping the financial benefits. Plus is he were truly great the A's might have given him a "Longoria" deal (taking into account that this is a special situation) were he is signed to contract that covers arbitration years plus some years at the start of free agency.

[Blzer]

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While I think he is likely going the NFL route and it will be most successful for him, he has to see where he is going to end up in the draft. If teams think he is playing a leverage card and still might have his mind set on baseball (he still does have a baseball agent, correct?), I would be afraid of using a draft pick on him if I thought he had any doubts or if I did about him. He is a 5'9" quarterback, so unless he is going to be your franchise QB you have to be careful. On that note, if he is a 4th round draft pick and riding the bench, the A's still have the rights to him and will be waiting... he could always just abandon ship and jump that way.

Again, I think he's just trying to squeeze out as much as he can get, either from a baseball contract perspective or maybe a high draft pick perspective. Of course with the Combine coming around he's going to say he has his sights on football; that's a perfect PR move. Only in this case, I think he's being legitimate about it. Though still, if that doesn't work out for him the way that he wants, I see no reason why he might not change his mind.

[Mercury112491]

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The chance of injury is the only thing baseball has over football in your point. Quarterbacks are playing longer than ever, and the percentage of players that play professional baseball that make it to the major league level is very small.

Ultimately the points you're arguing only apply to the best of best in baseball. Murray would have at least two years to even get to that level more than likely, then another 6 to reap the financial benefits he can get 4 months from now in football (barring changes to the CBA in a couple of years)

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Fair enough. I’ll concede that full career as an NFL starting QB could compete money wise with an MLB player. After looking more into the numbers my argument really applies more to every position EXCEPT QB lol.


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[BigOscar]

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Not surprised he went to the NFL, he's hot property there and will get paid, no doubt about it. Baseball he's looking at a decade before really getting paid, but in reality he probably wouldn't ever even get there. For all the talk of him, I've never seen anyone actually mention his baseball ability

[kehlis]

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While I think he is likely going the NFL route and it will be most successful for him, he has to see where he is going to end up in the draft.

He already made up his mind yesterday when he declared for the NFL and agreed to pay the A’s back his signing bonus.....

[Blzer]

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He already made up his mind yesterday when he declared for the NFL and agreed to pay the A’s back his signing bonus.....

I must've missed that news.

Even still, if things go south, I believe the A's aren't going to soil their rights to him. They'll gladly have him crawl back to their arms if need be.

... or maybe he joins the AAF.

[Jr.]

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If he were great (which would probably mean he got to majors at an earlier age), once he got to the majors it would take him 3 years, not 6, to start reaping the financial benefits. Plus is he were truly great the A's might have given him a "Longoria" deal (taking into account that this is a special situation) were he is signed to contract that covers arbitration years plus some years at the start of free agency.

Yes, he would get single year financial benefits from arbitration but that first year it's still minimal compared to his first NFL contract as a top 15 pick. Year 4, after his second arbitration, is where he would really see his worth begin to be matched financially.

Maybe he gets lucky and signs an early extension through arbitration and gets $10M per, but if he's equally as good in football, he's going to make 2-3 times that in his second contract.

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[Mercury112491]

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Not surprised he went to the NFL, he's hot property there and will get paid, no doubt about it. Baseball he's looking at a decade before really getting paid, but in reality he probably wouldn't ever even get there. For all the talk of him, I've never seen anyone actually mention his baseball ability

He was very highly regarded in terms of his baseball skills. He wasnt projecting to be a mega star but a very very good OF.


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[redsox4evur]

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Yes, he would get single year financial benefits from arbitration but that first year it's still minimal compared to his first NFL contract as a top 15 pick. Year 4, after his second arbitration, is where he would really see his worth begin to be matched financially.

Maybe he gets lucky and signs an early extension through arbitration and gets $10M per, but if he's equally as good in football, he's going to make 2-3 times that in his second contract.

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Mike Trout, the greatest player of all time according to some, made 6.083M in his first year of arbitration.

[SPTO]

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Going away from the Murray stuff:

I saw a clip of Yu Darvish talking about last season and how he wants to do something positive for the Cubs. I like that he's being accountable. The remarkable thing about it? The comments were done in English. I think that's the first time I ever heard him speak English. It was very good too.