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[Blzer]

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I posted this about a half hour ago in the wrong thread by accident. I'll just bring it here so it's better in sequence:

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See, what Will Smith is going into should be save opportunity worthy even if he only pitches through the eighth inning.

Runners on 2nd & 3rd, one out, leading by a run. If Smith strikes out the next two hitters, then the Giants score two more runs in the eighth, and another pitcher comes into the ninth to have two home runs hit and three more home runs robbed to win the ballgame, Smith should get the save and not the person who closed out that game.

Granted, this didn't happen because of the sacrifice fly that was hit as I was typing this, which gives Smith a blown save and I'm okay with that.

Much like if the starting pitcher doesn't go five innings, it's up to the scorekeeper to determine who pitched the most effectively out of the pen to decide who receives the win... the save should also consider such a "metric."

[TripleCrown9]

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Speaking of Giants retiring numbers and August 11th...

The Giants announced today, August 11th, that they're retiring Will Clark's #22 next season.

(They announced it today because they were honoring their 1989 NL Champs, not because of the date)

[dubcity]

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Speaking of Giants retiring numbers and August 11th...



The Giants announced today, August 11th, that they're retiring Will Clark's #22 next season.



(They announced it today because they were honoring their 1989 NL Champs, not because of the date)

I hope they're playing the Pirates. Will Bonds be there?

[TripleCrown9]

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I hope they're playing the Pirates. Will Bonds be there?

Maybe if it's like a "Giants Greats" sorta thing. They were only teammates for one season, in 1993 (a team that went 103-59, btw. With Bonds leading the league with 46 home runs, and won NL MVP)

[Majingir]

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Speaking of Giants retiring numbers and August 11th...



The Giants announced today, August 11th, that they're retiring Will Clark's #22 next season.



(They announced it today because they were honoring their 1989 NL Champs, not because of the date)

[l3ulvl]

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Maybe if it's like a "Giants Greats" sorta thing. They were only teammates for one season, in 1993 (a team that went 103-59, btw. With Bonds leading the league with 46 home runs, and won NL MVP)

Oh! That was the Ken Griffey JR baseball SNES roster season! Anyone remember the name designated for the guy who had his jersey retired, blah blah

I want to say Greta Garbo, were the Giants the team that had names of bombshell actresses from eons ago?

[Blzer]

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Bonds had the last name Pickering I think, and I think our DH spot (because I was always the Giants and I played my friend who was always the Mariners, so DH rules applied when he was home) had the last name Brooks.

I think someone also had the last name Marshall, can't remember who though.

[TripleCrown9]

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50 years ago today, the Mets woke up 8 games back in the NL East. They went on to become the Miracle Mets and upset the Orioles in the World Series.

Today, the Mets woke up 8 GB in the NL East and are on a hot streak.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Speaking of Giants retiring numbers and August 11th...

The Giants announced today, August 11th, that they're retiring Will Clark's #22 next season.

(They announced it today because they were honoring their 1989 NL Champs, not because of the date)

You know, I was reading more about Will Clark's jersey retirement and learned that Barry Bonds has had his jersey number retired already. No, really, it says it right here in this article:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27371890/giants-retire-clark-no-22-next-year

I also realized that Will Clark and Barry Bonds were teammates in 1993 for one season. And that surprised me because I always thought Clark was gone by the time Bonds made his way to San Francisco. Both good players, but neither one a very likable person.

Getting his jersey retired will be quite a thrill for Will Clark.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Oral history on the 94 strike:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27161035/oh-my-god-how-do-oral-history-1994-mlb-strike

Glavine: The only mistake I made was I never turned down an interview in hopes that I could change people's minds. I learned I couldn't. You're either on our side or you're not.

I understand where's he's coming from, but this has to be the most Harold Reynolds quote ever: I knew I could hold up physically. When I stopped playing, I intentionally got out of shape, so mentally I couldn't convince myself that I could still play.

Must've been tough for guys in the minors like FP, caught between a rock and a hard place.

On the other hand I wish I could've seen Tony Gwynn. I remember when Mauer hit 365 and thinking he was just impossible to get out around that time, 30 points higher is hard to even imagine.

[CMH]

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So a Yankees fan making this comment makes me chuckle...

It's all about context and expectations. You build a juggernaut like the Cubs were in 2016 and then get a worse result every year afterward. Some fans want to give Joe Maddon credit for the team being loaded with good players. I like to think he was mostly in the right place at the right time. But here we are indeed.

Why does that make you chuckle?


Did I insult Cubs fans? Did I insult the Cubs? Did I insult you?


I asked a question trying to understand why Cubs fans want a manager gone.


And that made you chuckle because I'm a Yankees fan.


There's a reason people here dislike you.

[CMH]

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50 years ago today, the Mets woke up 8 games back in the NL East. They went on to become the Miracle Mets and upset the Orioles in the World Series.

Today, the Mets woke up 8 GB in the NL East and are on a hot streak.

It could be funny to look back at the takes from the deadline if the Mets make the playoffs, but it's already funny.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Why does that make you chuckle?


Did I insult Cubs fans? Did I insult the Cubs? Did I insult you?


I asked a question trying to understand why Cubs fans want a manager gone.


And that made you chuckle because I'm a Yankees fan.


There's a reason people here dislike you.

To answer your question before you went off road here with that last comment--Yankees fans have a reputation (not referring to anyone here specifically) for being a "what have you done for me lately" fan base with anything less than championships not being good enough. Maybe that's changed a bit after a decade without a pennant and embracing the farm system more recently, but I found it interesting that a Yankees fan was telling me how great it is to win 90-95 games in the regular season and not have postseason success. Talk about role reversal.

If you are truly trying to understand why some Cubs fans want Joe Maddon gone, you can read back thru this thread a bit. But, pick any two of: poor bullpen management, team advancing less in the postseason each year, losing the division to the Brewers despite a massive payroll advantage, poor play on the road, poor use of leadoff hitters, no sense of urgency (he agrees with you that winning 90-95 games and doing nothing in the playoffs is a success). Plus, he doesn't really seem to be having as much fun with expectations being what they are, rather than with expectations being what they were pre-2016.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I’ve always felt that Rich Renteria got a raw deal with the Cubs job...I’ve hoped that he gets to see the White Sox rebuild through. Would suck to manage both Chicago teams in their rebuilds and watch someone else win with the fruit.


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He really did with the Cubs. That roster was terrible when he was there and I thought he did a good job developing some of the talent

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Well, yeah. The rawest of deals. I give him an incomplete. The front office gave him nothing at all to work with save for quad A players. Then, if I recall, Theo visits Ricky while he's recovering from back surgery and indisposed to tell him the good news that Joe Maddon is taking his job.

[Speedy]

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Oral history on the 94 strike:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27161035/oh-my-god-how-do-oral-history-1994-mlb-strike

Glavine: The only mistake I made was I never turned down an interview in hopes that I could change people's minds. I learned I couldn't. You're either on our side or you're not.

I understand where's he's coming from, but this has to be the most Harold Reynolds quote ever: I knew I could hold up physically. When I stopped playing, I intentionally got out of shape, so mentally I couldn't convince myself that I could still play.

Must've been tough for guys in the minors like FP, caught between a rock and a hard place.

On the other hand I wish I could've seen Tony Gwynn. I remember when Mauer hit 365 and thinking he was just impossible to get out around that time, 30 points higher is hard to even imagine.

What an anecdote. [emoji23]

KENT HRBEK (Minnesota Twins*first baseman, 1981-94, drove in three runs on Aug. 11):*I had announced my retirement earlier that season, so instead of playing my last game at the end of September, it was the middle of August. There wasn't sadness for me. When the season was canceled, I just took the [protective] cup that I wore all those years, grabbed a hammer and nailed it to the wall in my garage.
My cup is still nailed to that wall.