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  • Bunselpower32
    Pro
    • Jul 2012
    • 947

    #46
    Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

    I haven't gone through with a fine toothed comb, but I have found most of the best hitters missing from one of those categories. The area where he beats most other hitters is triples and strikeouts. Most people don't know that Stan struck out less than Williams over his career in 3000 more at bats. I would say he and Ted Williams would be right there with each other if each had gotten uninterrupted careers. Add another 210 hits to Musial's total and another 560 to Williams and that about shakes it out. Obviously factor in everything else. But to hit .331 over 12500 plate appearances is an unbelievable feat.
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    • TripleCrown9
      Keep the Faith
      • May 2010
      • 23694

      #47
      Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

      I'm just giving you a hard time. Ted Williams is my dude, and I'll defend him until my last breath lol.

      Musial is definitely one of the best of all-time. I just wish the one meeting between the two sluggers went better for my liking.
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      • ZB9
        Hall Of Fame
        • Nov 2004
        • 18387

        #48
        Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

        C: Yogi Berra
        1B: Lou Gehrig
        2B: Rogers Hornsby
        SS: Honus Wagner
        3B: Mike Schmidt
        LF: Ted Williams
        CF: Willie Mays
        RF: Babe Ruth
        SP: Roger Clemens
        Last edited by ZB9; 04-24-2015, 06:08 PM.

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        • OliDegu2008
          MVP
          • Jul 2008
          • 2290

          #49
          Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

          Originally posted by og236
          C Johnny Bench
          1B Lou Gehrig
          2B Ryne Sandberg
          3B Chipper Jones
          SS Derek Jeter
          LF Manny Ramirez
          CF Joe DiMaggio
          RF Vladimir Guerrero
          DH David Ortiz

          SP Nolan Ryan
          SP Sandy Koufax
          SP Randy Johnson
          SP Pedro Martinez
          SP Greg Maddux
          CP Mariano Rivera
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          Chipper, Derek, Manny and Vlad. Damn I miss that era of players.
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          • og236
            MVP
            • Mar 2013
            • 1116

            #50
            Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

            Originally posted by OliDegu2008
            Chipper, Derek, Manny and Vlad. Damn I miss that era of players.

            Yea I do as well man, I'm just 20 years old so I saw those guys play growing up, they just blew me away with how good they were. Idc about the Manny & steroids thing, he was one of my favorite players to watch and I'm a Yanks fan lol same as Pedro Martinez, he's my favorite pitcher of all time


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            • SpritePuck
              Rookie
              • May 2014
              • 408

              #51
              Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

              C: PUDGE RODRIGUEZ is scratched for JOE MAUER
              1B: LOU GEHRIG
              2B: JACKIE ROBINSON
              3B: PIE TRAYNOR
              SS: LUKE APPLING or CAL RIPKEN JR. (love them both equally)
              LF: JOE DIMAGGIO
              CF: WILLIE MAYS
              RF: KEN GRIFFEY JR.
              DH: TED WILLIAMS

              SP: CY YOUNG
              SP: GREG MADDUX
              SP: OREL HERSHISER
              SP: SANDY KOUFAX
              CP: MARIANO RIVERA

              Bench Coach: ROBERTO CLEMENTE

              Clemente, what a man, way too tragic the world and baseball lost him... Had no place for him on the field but since a four man rotation I figured the bus was not full and no more a deserving human there never was.

              Note on CY YOUNG though I once read he never had a season which was good enough to win the award named after him... which I am not so sure is true. But regardless he does not need days off or warm up and that will keep the game moving and my rotation short

              OF note: I believe those three could play any spot in the OF sorry if it was supposed to be specific

              Note on DIMAGGIO... barely has more strike outs than homers, at least once went yard more than striking out in a season... who does that? Can not imagine facing a hitter who is more apt to take you deep than strike out.

              Note on Jr. he is not the best CF or OF but is my favourite all time player.

              Note on Robinson maybe not the best second-baseman but what he accomplished, as baseball noted by retiring his number everywhere, is more than numbers.

              Note on SS's they are both tough ironmen who cared about fans!

              Note on Pudge, Ivan may not be the best but I grew up watching him and love the guy! Sorry Pudge but everyday Joe is a one team player and those eyes oh my those blue eyes! A girl loves quality catching but not as much as piercing blue eyes and a dreamy smile, combined with quality catching and loyalty.

              Too many honerable mentions to name and this list can change daily depending on what memories or stories from my grandfather come to mind... Almost an impossible task to select an all-time nine!
              Last edited by SpritePuck; 05-04-2015, 07:57 PM. Reason: Pudge Rodriguez got scratched for Joe Mauer and those baby blues of his...

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              • Ghost Of The Year
                Turn Left. Repeat.
                • Mar 2014
                • 6368

                #52
                Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

                Originally posted by SpritePuck
                SP: CY YOUNG

                Note on CY YOUNG though I once read he never had a season which was good enough to win the award named after him... which I am not so sure is true. But regardless he does not need days off or warm up and that will keep the game moving and my rotation short
                I'd give Cy his namesake award for his 1901 & 1892 seasons.
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                • 55
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 20857

                  #53
                  Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

                  Post 1900-

                  1- Ty Cobb (CF - 1917 version - 11.3 WAR)
                  2- Rogers Hornsby (2B - 1924 version - 12.4 WAR)
                  3- Babe Ruth (RF - 1923 version - 14.1 WAR)
                  4- Lou Gehrig (1B - 1927 version - 11.8 WAR
                  5- Barry Bonds (LF - 2001 version - 11.9 WAR)
                  6- Al Rosen (3B - 1953 version - 10.1 WAR)
                  7- Mike Piazza (C - 1997 version - 8.7 WAR)
                  8- Honus Wagner (SS - 1908 version - 11.5 WAR)
                  9- Walter Johnson (P - 1913 version - 14.6 WAR)

                  106.4 WAR

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                  • Trigger18
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 95

                    #54
                    Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

                    http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...R_season.shtml

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                    • Kovalev
                      Banned
                      • May 2015
                      • 59

                      #55
                      Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

                      RHP- Bob Feller (CLE)
                      LHP-Sandy Koufax (LA)

                      C-Pudge Rodriguez (DET)
                      1B-Jimmie Foxx (Philly)
                      2B-Nap Lajoie (CLE)
                      SS-Omar Vizquel (CLE)
                      3B-Mike Schmidt (Philly)
                      LF-Ted Williams (BOS)
                      CF-Ty Cobb (DET)
                      RF-Hank Aaron (ATL)
                      DH-Frank Thomas (CWS)

                      RP-Dennis Eckersly (OAK)
                      CP-Mariano Rivera (NYY)

                      ^^the CORRECT list.

                      dominating SP, phenominal AVG and OBP and Power at each position, countless gold gloves at each position.

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                      • Sportsforever
                        NL MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 20368

                        #56
                        Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

                        Originally posted by Kovalev
                        RHP- Bob Feller (CLE)
                        LHP-Sandy Koufax (LA)

                        C-Pudge Rodriguez (DET)
                        1B-Jimmie Foxx (Philly)
                        2B-Nap Lajoie (CLE)
                        SS-Omar Vizquel (CLE)
                        3B-Mike Schmidt (Philly)
                        LF-Ted Williams (BOS)
                        CF-Ty Cobb (DET)
                        RF-Hank Aaron (ATL)
                        DH-Frank Thomas (CWS)

                        RP-Dennis Eckersly (OAK)
                        CP-Mariano Rivera (NYY)

                        ^^the CORRECT list.

                        dominating SP, phenominal AVG and OBP and Power at each position, countless gold gloves at each position.
                        Reads your final comment and sees Omar Vizquel listed at SS...please explain.
                        "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                        • Kovalev
                          Banned
                          • May 2015
                          • 59

                          #57
                          Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

                          Originally posted by Sportsforever
                          Reads your final comment and sees Omar Vizquel listed at SS...please explain.
                          one of the greatest defensive SS. 12 GG, won 10 straight and all 12 within 15 years, its a deserving spot. i would only put Smith ahead.

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                          • Sportsforever
                            NL MVP
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 20368

                            #58
                            Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

                            Originally posted by Kovalev
                            one of the greatest defensive SS. 12 GG, won 10 straight and all 12 within 15 years, its a deserving spot. i would only put Smith ahead.
                            Yes, but you said power and OBP at each position...Omar was a liability with the bat except in a few years. Just didn't match up with your stated goal IMO...
                            "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                            • Kovalev
                              Banned
                              • May 2015
                              • 59

                              #59
                              Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

                              Originally posted by Sportsforever
                              Yes, but you said power and OBP at each position...Omar was a liability with the bat except in a few years. Just didn't match up with your stated goal IMO...
                              .275/365 BA/OBP in his prime is nothing to scoff at and its better than Smith.

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                              • Sportsforever
                                NL MVP
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 20368

                                #60
                                Re: Who is your starting 9 of all-time?

                                Originally posted by Kovalev
                                .275/365 BA/OBP in his prime is nothing to scoff at and its better than Smith.
                                He had one season (1999) with an OBP > .365 and had a career OPS+ of 82. I have a hard time picking him or Ozzie over Wagner or Ripken. Heck, I'd probably take Jeter over Omar/Smith.
                                "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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