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  • jordan0386
    Banned
    • May 2003
    • 9235

    #1

    Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

    enough is enough, mets fans

    they quit on him

    next season, only wright, reyes, matsui, and cameron need to be there...everybody else needs to go, and howe

    this team is too old and wack...too much loyalty is being handed out to the veterans...they havent done **** in 5 seasons...this is unbelievable

    then to top it off, fred coupon refuses to spend money


    so mad
  • rsox
    All Star
    • Feb 2003
    • 6309

    #2
    Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

    Peter Gammons said on Baseball Tonight the other night that Lou Pinella is trying to get out of his contract with the Devil Rays so he can manage the Mets, Lou wants to get back to managing in a pennant race, something that Devil Rays are a long way away from.

    Agreed that the team quit on Art Howe, but i never thought he was the right fit for the Mets anyway. And the problem with Fred Wilpon is that he will spend money, just not spend it wisely, which probably means trading Mike Piazza, releasing Richard Hidalgo, keeping John Franco and signing Kris Benson to a ridiculous contract so he can stink up Shea for a few years.

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    • rsox
      All Star
      • Feb 2003
      • 6309

      #3
      Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

      Peter Gammons said on Baseball Tonight the other night that Lou Pinella is trying to get out of his contract with the Devil Rays so he can manage the Mets, Lou wants to get back to managing in a pennant race, something that Devil Rays are a long way away from.

      Agreed that the team quit on Art Howe, but i never thought he was the right fit for the Mets anyway. And the problem with Fred Wilpon is that he will spend money, just not spend it wisely, which probably means trading Mike Piazza, releasing Richard Hidalgo, keeping John Franco and signing Kris Benson to a ridiculous contract so he can stink up Shea for a few years.

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      • Karlos05
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        • Mar 2003
        • 5814

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        Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

        This is getting ugly. Howe is really pushing to get fired. This is an absolute dive and the axe is getting really close to Howe. He's still got a couple years left but after this season I would fire how and promote Don Baylor. The players respect him and maybe this time next year they will acually be trying to play not just quiting.

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        • Karlos05
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          • Mar 2003
          • 5814

          #5
          Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

          This is getting ugly. Howe is really pushing to get fired. This is an absolute dive and the axe is getting really close to Howe. He's still got a couple years left but after this season I would fire how and promote Don Baylor. The players respect him and maybe this time next year they will acually be trying to play not just quiting.

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          • jordan0386
            Banned
            • May 2003
            • 9235

            #6
            Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

            i dont agree with the respect thing

            howe has done more in his coaching career than baylor...so they should respect howe more

            he just cant come back...he cant

            they just need to go young, then sign mags and some pitching...still cant believe they traded kasmir

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            • jordan0386
              Banned
              • May 2003
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              #7
              Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

              i dont agree with the respect thing

              howe has done more in his coaching career than baylor...so they should respect howe more

              he just cant come back...he cant

              they just need to go young, then sign mags and some pitching...still cant believe they traded kasmir

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              • Karlos05
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                • Mar 2003
                • 5814

                #8
                Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                Yea looking back I think respect was the wrong word to choose there but what I'm trying to get at is that the players aren't playing for him any more. It's not all his fault, he has lost big chunks of his line-up (Reyes, Matsui, Piazza for a while) and has had an all around bad season. Some one is going to have to take the fall and it's going to be Howe.

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                • Karlos05
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                  • Mar 2003
                  • 5814

                  #9
                  Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                  Yea looking back I think respect was the wrong word to choose there but what I'm trying to get at is that the players aren't playing for him any more. It's not all his fault, he has lost big chunks of his line-up (Reyes, Matsui, Piazza for a while) and has had an all around bad season. Some one is going to have to take the fall and it's going to be Howe.

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                  • jordan0386
                    Banned
                    • May 2003
                    • 9235

                    #10
                    Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                    its unfortunate, howe is a good guy

                    but it shows he cant manage well with avg talent...which isnt exactly all his fault

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                    • jordan0386
                      Banned
                      • May 2003
                      • 9235

                      #11
                      Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                      its unfortunate, howe is a good guy

                      but it shows he cant manage well with avg talent...which isnt exactly all his fault

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                      • TheTruth916
                        All Star
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 5991

                        #12
                        Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                        Originally posted by Karlos05
                        Yea looking back I think respect was the wrong word to choose there but what I'm trying to get at is that the players aren't playing for him any more. It's not all his fault, he has lost big chunks of his line-up (Reyes, Matsui, Piazza for a while) and has had an all around bad season. Some one is going to have to take the fall and it's going to be Howe.
                        Is Art Howe not respected among players he coaches? Or isn't that the young guys don't react to his coaching?
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                        • TheTruth916
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                          • Aug 2002
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                          Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                          Originally posted by Karlos05
                          Yea looking back I think respect was the wrong word to choose there but what I'm trying to get at is that the players aren't playing for him any more. It's not all his fault, he has lost big chunks of his line-up (Reyes, Matsui, Piazza for a while) and has had an all around bad season. Some one is going to have to take the fall and it's going to be Howe.
                          Is Art Howe not respected among players he coaches? Or isn't that the young guys don't react to his coaching?
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                          • Angel_Fan
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                            • Jul 2004
                            • 980

                            #14
                            Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                            The Mets Suk!
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                            Rams NFL Championships :
                            1945,1951,1999


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                            • Angel_Fan
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 980

                              #15
                              Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                              The Mets Suk!
                              Angels World Series Championships : 2002

                              Rams NFL Championships :
                              1945,1951,1999


                              "
                              Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."

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