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  • jordan0386
    Banned
    • May 2003
    • 9235

    #16
    Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

    Mr. Negative meet Mr. Obvious

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    • jordan0386
      Banned
      • May 2003
      • 9235

      #17
      Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

      Mr. Negative meet Mr. Obvious

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      • Karlos05
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        • Mar 2003
        • 5814

        #18
        Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

        Originally posted by jordan0386
        Mr. Negative meet Mr. Obvious
        :y4: :y4:

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        • Karlos05
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          • Mar 2003
          • 5814

          #19
          Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

          Originally posted by jordan0386
          Mr. Negative meet Mr. Obvious
          :y4: :y4:

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          • nyisles16
            All Star
            • Apr 2003
            • 8317

            #20
            Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

            earth to the wilpons.. how's Guerrero's back??? yeah, it must be severe enough to hit over 25 hrs, etc, etc.. i also agree that Howe must go.. he makes plenty of bone head decisions to make my head spin... the best quote.. "Kazmir is untouchable" (at the beginning of season).. ugh.. right now, i have seen enough of Zelie, .205 hitting Phillips, both lefties in the pen (Franco/Stanton).. it is almost embarrasing to watch.. oh wait, they have lost 18 of the past 20 or so games...

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            • nyisles16
              All Star
              • Apr 2003
              • 8317

              #21
              Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

              earth to the wilpons.. how's Guerrero's back??? yeah, it must be severe enough to hit over 25 hrs, etc, etc.. i also agree that Howe must go.. he makes plenty of bone head decisions to make my head spin... the best quote.. "Kazmir is untouchable" (at the beginning of season).. ugh.. right now, i have seen enough of Zelie, .205 hitting Phillips, both lefties in the pen (Franco/Stanton).. it is almost embarrasing to watch.. oh wait, they have lost 18 of the past 20 or so games...

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              • HealyMonster
                Titans Era has begun.
                • Aug 2002
                • 5992

                #22
                Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                I say release Franco, give him season tickets or something, put half of the roser back into the minor leagues, put reyes back at shortstop, trade kaz away, trade piazza to the AL for a good outfielder with a bat, trade jason phillips and stanton make it a 3 for 1 deal, i dont care, pick up some free agent pitching, trade glaving and leiter for younger talent ie maybe the A's? then we can start talking about the 2006 playoffs. we need to have a winning record for a year before we get "pennant fever".

                Things not to do: trade away top prospects for anyone over 30, sign randy johnson for 50 million, sign kevin millwood ( I can almost feel this thought going through wilpons fat head), do not make john franco pitching coach, trade reyes,floyd,cameron,wright.

                I bet wilpon will do everything i said not to do during the offseason, then claim "This is the year" when they are 39-42 at the allstar break and 4 games behind the wildcard.

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                • HealyMonster
                  Titans Era has begun.
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 5992

                  #23
                  Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                  I say release Franco, give him season tickets or something, put half of the roser back into the minor leagues, put reyes back at shortstop, trade kaz away, trade piazza to the AL for a good outfielder with a bat, trade jason phillips and stanton make it a 3 for 1 deal, i dont care, pick up some free agent pitching, trade glaving and leiter for younger talent ie maybe the A's? then we can start talking about the 2006 playoffs. we need to have a winning record for a year before we get "pennant fever".

                  Things not to do: trade away top prospects for anyone over 30, sign randy johnson for 50 million, sign kevin millwood ( I can almost feel this thought going through wilpons fat head), do not make john franco pitching coach, trade reyes,floyd,cameron,wright.

                  I bet wilpon will do everything i said not to do during the offseason, then claim "This is the year" when they are 39-42 at the allstar break and 4 games behind the wildcard.

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                  • cyyounghalladay
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 96

                    #24
                    Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                    If Howe's gone from the Mets I bet he'd end up in Toronto next season. GM JP Ricciardi adores everyone that ever had anything to do with Oakland.

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                    • cyyounghalladay
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 96

                      #25
                      Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                      If Howe's gone from the Mets I bet he'd end up in Toronto next season. GM JP Ricciardi adores everyone that ever had anything to do with Oakland.

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                      • rsox
                        All Star
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 6309

                        #26
                        Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                        Originally posted by cyyounghalladay
                        If Howe's gone from the Mets I bet he'd end up in Toronto next season. GM JP Ricciardi adores everyone that ever had anything to do with Oakland.
                        Which may not be a bad idea. Howe has had reasonable success managing in the American League, posting a 600-533 record (all with the A's), and made three playoff appearences, however, he has not had any success as a National League manager going 519-594 (after todays loss) with the Astros and Mets. So it's possible Howe could do a better job with the Blue Jays than with the Mets, and if your a Blue Jays fan, he can't be any worse than Carlos Tosca.

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                        • rsox
                          All Star
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 6309

                          #27
                          Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                          Originally posted by cyyounghalladay
                          If Howe's gone from the Mets I bet he'd end up in Toronto next season. GM JP Ricciardi adores everyone that ever had anything to do with Oakland.
                          Which may not be a bad idea. Howe has had reasonable success managing in the American League, posting a 600-533 record (all with the A's), and made three playoff appearences, however, he has not had any success as a National League manager going 519-594 (after todays loss) with the Astros and Mets. So it's possible Howe could do a better job with the Blue Jays than with the Mets, and if your a Blue Jays fan, he can't be any worse than Carlos Tosca.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #28
                            Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                            Blah to Howe and his helping the A's. Mr. No idea what I'm doing Ken Macha has done a fine job there and I know for sure it has nothing to do with him. Macha has a fine unit of players. Am I taking all of the credit away from Macha? Yes.

                            So, what am I saying about Howe? I'm saying that he isn't a good manager.

                            The Mets can do better. Piniella would be perfect for them, but I bet he honors his contract in Tampa.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • CMH
                              Making you famous
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 26203

                              #29
                              Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                              Blah to Howe and his helping the A's. Mr. No idea what I'm doing Ken Macha has done a fine job there and I know for sure it has nothing to do with him. Macha has a fine unit of players. Am I taking all of the credit away from Macha? Yes.

                              So, what am I saying about Howe? I'm saying that he isn't a good manager.

                              The Mets can do better. Piniella would be perfect for them, but I bet he honors his contract in Tampa.
                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                              • jordan0386
                                Banned
                                • May 2003
                                • 9235

                                #30
                                Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                                CBS is reporting that he is out at the end of the year

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